BeanScripting Framework

[K.-P. Kirchdoerfer]

In case someone missed it;
at alphaworks.ibm.com last week arrived a bean scripting framework.

<start of quote>
The Bean Scripting Framework (BSF) is an architecture for
incorporating scripting into Java
applications and applets. Using BSF, an application can use
scripting, and become scriptable,
against any BSF¡supported language. When BSF supports additional
languages, the application
will automatically support the additional languages. Scripts in any
BSF¡supported language can
be run directly on the command line as well.

Supported Languages:
-------------------
        - Netscape Rhino v1.4
        - NetRexx v1.148

For more information about BSF, see:
http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/bsf
<end of quote>

Nice to see someone at IBM is taking care of NetRexx. Which is in
contrast to the JVM people at Hursley, who still refuse to deliver
NetRexx with their various JDK's, and especially the VA developers at
the Toronto labs.
The latter one are now asking for feedback for the VA 3.0 beta
release; I'll shure give 'em some feedback.

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[mcbrides]

>In case someone missed it;
>at alphaworks.ibm.com last week arrived a bean scripting framework.
>

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Nice piece of "heads up", thanks.

>Nice to see someone at IBM is taking care of NetRexx. Which is in
>contrast to the JVM people at Hursley, who still refuse to deliver
>NetRexx with their various JDK's, and especially the VA developers at
>the Toronto labs.

As far as I know, it has been mentioned that NetRexx was being considered as
a scripting alternative in an up-comming VAJ. Imagine my disappointment when
the 3.0 beta didn't have it...

Mike C., if you're reading this, would it be possible to post a few email
address to those that make the decisions concerning NetRexx being included
into IBM java paoducts? I would dearly LOVE to startup a grass-root movement
and get NetRexx added to the JDK112 and the next round of VAJ. Someone,
somewhere MUST have noticed that NetRexx is more than just another java tool...

Common, Mike, just one email address. I promise to be nice... :')

>The latter one are now asking for feedback for the VA 3.0 beta
>release; I'll shure give 'em some feedback.
>

Same here, and I'll be nice about it too. However, I'm sure I'll get my point
across. :') NetRexx is what Java syntax SHOULD be....


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[Mike Cowlishaw-2]

Thanks for the support & encouragement.

e-mail addresses -- all IBM employees' e-mail addresses are available from:

   http://whois.ibm.com

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[Nix, Robert P.]

I was under the impression that the reason that
NETREXX isn't delivered under the covers of the JDK
is due to the Java developers license from Sun. If
I remember correctly, the JDK must be delivered as
the same package to every platform. If you want to
include NETREXX in the JDK for OS/390 or VM, you
would have to get all the other vendors to agree
to deliver it on their platforms as well. Otherwise,
the JDK wouldn't be the same on every system, and
you'd lose the code portability that is so coveted
in the Java ranks.

   Bob Nix

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Thanks for the support & encouragement.

e-mail addresses -- all IBM employees' e-mail addresses are available
from:

   http://whois.ibm.com

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[mcbrides]

>Thanks for the support & encouragement.
>

You and your creation, deserve it. :')


>e-mail addresses -- all IBM employees' e-mail addresses are available from:
>
>   http://whois.ibm.com
>

I'm very familiar with the "whois" site, but it's a bit inflexible for what I'd
like to do. Simply put, I don't know the names of the people that are in
control of the IBM JDK's, NetRexx distribution, VAJ project, etc. I'm able to
send emails "up the chain" via beta feedback channels and "what have you", but
being able to connect to "the powers that be" is currently out of my reach.

I'd really like to drop an email or two, into the mailbox(s) of the person(s)
that makes the decisions that effect NetRexx. That, IMHO, would be the cats'
meow...

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[mcbrides]

>I was under the impression that the reason that
>NETREXX isn't delivered under the covers of the JDK
>is due to the Java developers license from Sun. If
>I remember correctly, the JDK must be delivered as
>the same package to every platform. If you want to
>include NETREXX in the JDK for OS/390 or VM, you
>would have to get all the other vendors to agree
>to deliver it on their platforms as well. Otherwise,
>the JDK wouldn't be the same on every system, and
>you'd lose the code portability that is so coveted
>in the Java ranks.

Hi Bob,

As long as IBM doesn't alter or include anything in the JDK that Sun maintains
as "the implementation", IBM could and do include anything they desire.
The thing that I'd like to see, as a bare minimum, is NetRexx offered as an
option on the same page that a user/programmer FTP's the IBMJDK from. Just like
was done with the JavaComm API for OS/2. At least that would be "something".

Ofcourse, the best possible exposure would be to include NetRexx in all of the
JDK's that IBM supports... That would be a very big plus, as a GREAT many
people still have never even heard of NetRexx. But as sonn as you show them...
it's almost an instant winner...

Mike, we need more exposure... :')


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