Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: getting crazy with this java-classpath-lib-doesnt-work-whereever-i-put NetRexxC.jar-thing :-((((

[ThSITC]

... for your info!
thomas.
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Betreff:	Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] getting crazy with this java-classpath-lib-doesnt-work-whereever-i-put NetRexxC.jar-thing :-((((
Datum:	Wed, 02 May 2012 19:41:26 +0200
Von:	Rony G. Flatscher [hidden email]
An:	Thomas Schneider [hidden email]
Kopie (CC):	Walter u. Christel Pachl [hidden email], Rene Vincent Jansen [hidden email], Ian Stirling [hidden email]

Thomas,

On 02.05.2012 19:23, Thomas Schneider wrote:

PS: I'm copying Rony only for his info (as he is located in Vienna, as well).
When I shall not do so, Rony, please simply say: *Not interested* .

Please, do *never*, *ever* copy me in any of your e-mails, they are all none of my business.

I assume the same is true for René and Ian (and for Mike and for ...): please do *never*, *ever* cc:/forward private e-mails!

The same is true for your postings: never post to more than one newsgroup and do *not* cross-post!

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[Rony G. Flatscher (wu-wien)]

Thomas:

On 02.05.2012 19:46, Thomas Schneider wrote:

... for your info!

please *stop* doing this!

My e-mail was an answer to yours, you are bothering an *entire mail-group* (!) and me. I have not authorized you to distribute my private e-mail answer to you to anywhere else!

---rony

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Betreff:	Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] getting crazy with this java-classpath-lib-doesnt-work-whereever-i-put NetRexxC.jar-thing :-((((
Datum:	Wed, 02 May 2012 19:41:26 +0200
Von:	Rony G. Flatscher [hidden email]
An:	Thomas Schneider [hidden email]
Kopie (CC):	Walter u. Christel Pachl [hidden email], Rene Vincent Jansen [hidden email], Ian Stirling [hidden email]

Thomas,

On 02.05.2012 19:23, Thomas Schneider wrote:

PS: I'm copying Rony only for his info (as he is located in Vienna, as well).
When I shall not do so, Rony, please simply say: *Not interested* .

Please, do *never*, *ever* copy me in any of your e-mails, they are all none of my business.

I assume the same is true for René and Ian (and for Mike and for ...): please do *never*, *ever* cc:/forward private e-mails!

The same is true for your postings: never post to more than one newsgroup and do *not* cross-post!

---rony

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[ThSITC]

I would prefer, Mr. Prof. Rony G. Flatscher, when you are *responding*
to e-mails relating the whole group, at least (cc) to the Group! :-)

You might remember (maybe ??), that when we met first time thee in Raleigh, US, where I did present my band new Rexx2Nrx (www.Rexx2Nrx.com), and later in Boeblingen, Germany, at the
25th Rexx annivesrary, that you did suggest to me I should try
to implement my *own* *Object Rexx* Parser.

You also did say, those times, that you will help with your students
implementing the fermer Obect Rexx *run-time* library, when I
would provide the Parser and Generator Engine .. ;-)

times have changed, since then ..

All the best for you, dear Rony, and good luck for allof our projects :-)

Thomas Schneider.
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Am 02.05.2012 19:49, schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:

Thomas:

On 02.05.2012 19:46, Thomas Schneider wrote:

... for your info!

please *stop* doing this!

My e-mail was an answer to yours, you are bothering an *entire mail-group* (!) and me. I have not authorized you to distribute my private e-mail answer to you to anywhere else!

---rony

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Betreff:	Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] getting crazy with this java-classpath-lib-doesnt-work-whereever-i-put NetRexxC.jar-thing :-((((
Datum:	Wed, 02 May 2012 19:41:26 +0200
Von:	Rony G. Flatscher [hidden email]
An:	Thomas Schneider [hidden email]
Kopie (CC):	Walter u. Christel Pachl [hidden email], Rene Vincent Jansen [hidden email], Ian Stirling [hidden email]

Thomas,

On 02.05.2012 19:23, Thomas Schneider wrote:

PS: I'm copying Rony only for his info (as he is located in Vienna, as well).
When I shall not do so, Rony, please simply say: *Not interested* .

Please, do *never*, *ever* copy me in any of your e-mails, they are all none of my business.

I assume the same is true for René and Ian (and for Mike and for ...): please do *never*, *ever* cc:/forward private e-mails!

The same is true for your postings: never post to more than one newsgroup and do *not* cross-post!

---rony

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[Rony G. Flatscher (wu-wien)]

Thomas,

please stop.

Also stop spreading FUD and wrong facts, e.g.: over the years I have *repeatedly* and explicitly advised *against* trying to port ooRexx programs with your project as this is simply not possible with your concept and repeatedly I explicitly *refused* to get any students involved in such an impossible task (being an obligation to shelter the students).

This is the last e-mail in this context.

Please go back and re-read my e-mails, whether you like them or not, and contemplate what has been said.

---rony


On 02.05.2012 20:07, Thomas Schneider wrote:

I would prefer, Mr. Prof. Rony G. Flatscher, when you are *responding*
to e-mails relating the whole group, at least (cc) to the Group! :-)

You might remember (maybe ??), that when we met first time thee in Raleigh, US, where I did present my band new Rexx2Nrx (www.Rexx2Nrx.com), and later in Boeblingen, Germany, at the
25th Rexx annivesrary, that you did suggest to me I should try
to implement my *own* *Object Rexx* Parser.

You also did say, those times, that you will help with your students
implementing the fermer Obect Rexx *run-time* library, when I
would provide the Parser and Generator Engine .. ;-)

times have changed, since then ..

All the best for you, dear Rony, and good luck for allof our projects :-)

Thomas Schneider.
========================================================. 
Am 02.05.2012 19:49, schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:

Thomas:

On 02.05.2012 19:46, Thomas Schneider wrote:

... for your info!

please *stop* doing this!

My e-mail was an answer to yours, you are bothering an *entire mail-group* (!) and me. I have not authorized you to distribute my private e-mail answer to you to anywhere else!

---rony

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Betreff:	Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] getting crazy with this java-classpath-lib-doesnt-work-whereever-i-put NetRexxC.jar-thing :-((((
Datum:	Wed, 02 May 2012 19:41:26 +0200
Von:	Rony G. Flatscher [hidden email]
An:	Thomas Schneider [hidden email]
Kopie (CC):	Walter u. Christel Pachl [hidden email], Rene Vincent Jansen [hidden email], Ian Stirling [hidden email]

Thomas,

On 02.05.2012 19:23, Thomas Schneider wrote:

PS: I'm copying Rony only for his info (as he is located in Vienna, as well).
When I shall not do so, Rony, please simply say: *Not interested* .

Please, do *never*, *ever* copy me in any of your e-mails, they are all none of my business.

I assume the same is true for René and Ian (and for Mike and for ...): please do *never*, *ever* cc:/forward private e-mails!

The same is true for your postings: never post to more than one newsgroup and do *not* cross-post!

---rony

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[ThSITC]

As*one* last reply, Mr. Professor Rony G. Flatscher:

*it is feasable* (as I did try to implement, and *did implement*, at least) ...

.........   Sorry to say (Smiley, as always)

Massa Thomas, from Vienna, Austria, Europe
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Am 02.05.2012 20:24, schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:

Thomas,

please stop.

Also stop spreading FUD and wrong facts, e.g.: over the years I have *repeatedly* and explicitly advised *against* trying to port ooRexx programs with your project as this is simply not possible with your concept and repeatedly I explicitly *refused* to get any students involved in such an impossible task (being an obligation to shelter the students).

This is the last e-mail in this context.

Please go back and re-read my e-mails, whether you like them or not, and contemplate what has been said.

---rony


On 02.05.2012 20:07, Thomas Schneider wrote:

I would prefer, Mr. Prof. Rony G. Flatscher, when you are *responding*
to e-mails relating the whole group, at least (cc) to the Group! :-)

You might remember (maybe ??), that when we met first time thee in Raleigh, US, where I did present my band new Rexx2Nrx (www.Rexx2Nrx.com), and later in Boeblingen, Germany, at the
25th Rexx annivesrary, that you did suggest to me I should try
to implement my *own* *Object Rexx* Parser.

You also did say, those times, that you will help with your students
implementing the fermer Obect Rexx *run-time* library, when I
would provide the Parser and Generator Engine .. ;-)

times have changed, since then ..

All the best for you, dear Rony, and good luck for allof our projects :-)

Thomas Schneider.
========================================================. 
Am 02.05.2012 19:49, schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:

Thomas:

On 02.05.2012 19:46, Thomas Schneider wrote:

... for your info!

please *stop* doing this!

My e-mail was an answer to yours, you are bothering an *entire mail-group* (!) and me. I have not authorized you to distribute my private e-mail answer to you to anywhere else!

---rony

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Betreff:	Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] getting crazy with this java-classpath-lib-doesnt-work-whereever-i-put NetRexxC.jar-thing :-((((
Datum:	Wed, 02 May 2012 19:41:26 +0200
Von:	Rony G. Flatscher [hidden email]
An:	Thomas Schneider [hidden email]
Kopie (CC):	Walter u. Christel Pachl [hidden email], Rene Vincent Jansen [hidden email], Ian Stirling [hidden email]

Thomas,

On 02.05.2012 19:23, Thomas Schneider wrote:

PS: I'm copying Rony only for his info (as he is located in Vienna, as well).
When I shall not do so, Rony, please simply say: *Not interested* .

Please, do *never*, *ever* copy me in any of your e-mails, they are all none of my business.

I assume the same is true for René and Ian (and for Mike and for ...): please do *never*, *ever* cc:/forward private e-mails!

The same is true for your postings: never post to more than one newsgroup and do *not* cross-post!

---rony

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[Rony G. Flatscher (wu-wien)]

Thomas,

On 02.05.2012 20:29, Thomas Schneider wrote:

As*one* last reply, Mr. Professor Rony G. Flatscher:

*it is feasable* (as I did try to implement, and *did implement*, at least) ...

.........   Sorry to say (Smiley, as always)

How does the result of the following two ooRexx program look like in NetRexx after running through your then:

/* test.rex */
.local~this.is.easy=.directory~new
.this.is.easy~thomas="Schneider"
say pp(.this.is.easy~thomas)

::requires xyz

and

/* xyz.rex */
::routine pp public
 return "["arg(1)"]"

And running the result does yield?

[Schneider]

That is what ooRexx gives me, if running "test.rex".

As you have implemented it, please show us the NetRexx code within the next five minutes or so (your tool should be able to translate this within fractions of a second?).

If you cannot proof it, then please never ever claim that you can do it: first deliver, then speak!

---rony


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[ThSITC]

Hello Rony, old friend!

*Please* do send a *single ZIP* of *all your testcases*
(with a meaningful name, for both of us, maybe?)

by attached mail to my business adress ([hidden email])

I will send you back the result log by attached file again.

see you (remote) in Raleigh!
Thomas.
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Am 02.05.2012 20:37, schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:

Thomas,

On 02.05.2012 20:29, Thomas Schneider wrote:

As*one* last reply, Mr. Professor Rony G. Flatscher:

*it is feasable* (as I did try to implement, and *did implement*, at least) ...

.........   Sorry to say (Smiley, as always)

How does the result of the following two ooRexx program look like in NetRexx after running through your then:

/* test.rex */
.local~this.is.easy=.directory~new
.this.is.easy~thomas="Schneider"
say pp(.this.is.easy~thomas)

::requires xyz

and

/* xyz.rex */
::routine pp public
 return "["arg(1)"]"

And running the result does yield?

[Schneider]

That is what ooRexx gives me, if running "test.rex".

As you have implemented it, please show us the NetRexx code within the next five minutes or so (your tool should be able to translate this within fractions of a second?).

If you cannot proof it, then please never ever claim that you can do it: first deliver, then speak!

---rony

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[ThSITC]

Hello Gents, again:

Mr. Walter Pachl is *making a ***BIG*** Understatement* here.

Formerly, when the IBM Lab's have been there in Vienna, under Prof. Zemanek, who also did invent (here in Vienna, Austria, Europe) in the
then *local IBM Lab's* the then *new* PL/I Language (by full *formal* definition of this then *new Language* in the Backus-Naur Form) ...

... then, at the end of this IBM Lab: Walter Pachl has been Chief
of the

    * IBM Rexx Compiler QA team*

heer in Vienna (written in *Israel*, as far as I do *know*)

........ *and*, what he did, with his team:

*********************************************************************************
* He did (with his team) *assure*, that the IBM Rexx Compiler
* 
*     --- has been delivered BUG-Less ----
*********************************************************************************

Now, you might imagine, how imortant it *may be* to get him interested
to make some *QA* (fully spelled: *Qualiity Assurance*) for
this *ever growing*

     *** Rexx Family of Languages ***

He has the wisdom, and the knowledge, and the energy, and mayb the will(?)

to actually *do this* !!

Thomas Schneider.

****************************************************
(****** NOT cc'ed to REXXLA!!!! ************)))
****************************************************

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 Am 02.05.2012 20:59, schrieb Walter Pachl:

I am not a member of Netrexx (whatever that is)

I subscribe the Netrexx List

I am fully busy with work and not at all familiar with NetRexx or the OO part of OOrexx

My recent interest in NetRexx came with my offer to Rene to review some doc of his (which I did)

Please don't sell my brainpower that ain't really there.

don't accuse the Rexxes not to belong to the family. They ARE different but mosly on purpose.

 

Walter

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... Please do subscribe ibm-netrexx, Walter!

..... we all would need your expertise in *Testing* software, as you did
very personally (with your team)

   *years ago*

*********************************************************************
* for the IBM Rexx Compiler here in Vienna!
*********************************************************************

Ian, please again do send Walter *instructions* how to subscribe
ibm-netrexx. He isjust making his first steps, is a member of RexxLA,
but was not really aware of ibm-netrexx at all :-(
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