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David Requena

 > NetRexx already has a behemoth of a library/runtime. If someone (not me)

Of course I was referring to the java class directly library available
to any NetRexx
program here.

Cheers,
David
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] What am I missing?

David Requena

El 03/03/2010 16:48, David Requena escribió:
>
> > NetRexx already has a behemoth of a library/runtime. If someone (not
> me)
>
> Of course I was referring to the java class directly library available
> to any NetRexx
> program here.
>

Arrrg! time for a break

<translate>the java class library which is directly available
to...</translate>

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Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] What am I missing?

rvjansen
well no need to take a break David, I understood you the first time
around. I think it is not a bad idea if we started to design our code
repository now. If we have a look at cpan, and for example the way
eclipse and netbeans load plugins, we might go a long way. A component
model might not hurt, complete with self-describing features and
metadata (properties, events).

The other side of that is, will that still be Rexx or something else.
Marrying the two would be a bonus in my book, so a Rexx way of
software components/plugins without the overhead. I still cannot quite
grasp that SOM went overboard so quickly.

I always saw NetRexx as a different language. A more rational and
pleasant way to use the JVM, and with an heritage of Rexx with some of
the original choices a bit better, like loop instead of do and case
insensitive comparisons. I totally agree that the runtime is more or
less complete and that we should go the way of the code/component
exchange for most of the extensions.

No reason not to start now. btw - where are the members on your kenai
site - I saw two members, you and me. Come on people, it is at
http://projectkenai.com/projects/netrexx-misc/pages/Home - register
yourself and follow the project.

best regards,

René Jansen.


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:50 PM, David Requena <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> El 03/03/2010 16:48, David Requena escribió:
>>
>> > NetRexx already has a behemoth of a library/runtime. If someone (not me)
>>
>> Of course I was referring to the java class directly library available to
>> any NetRexx
>> program here.
>>
>
> Arrrg! time for a break
>
> <translate>the java class library which is directly available
> to...</translate>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
> [hidden email]
>
>

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Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] What am I missing?

Fernando Cassia-2
Dear René,

What in codepage hell can be causing your e-mail to show like egyptian
hieroglyphs on my unicode-enabled Gmail screen?

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4164/renejansentimetocallane.jpg

Oh, bummer, imageshack shortened the file name. It was
"timetocallanexorcist". ;-)

FC

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:02 PM, René Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> wellánoáneedáto take a break David,áIáunderstoodáyouátheáfirstátime
> around.áIáthinkáitáisánotáaábadáideaáifáweástartedátoádesignáourácode
> repositoryánow.áIfáweáhaveáaálookáatácpan,áandáforáexampleátheáway
> eclipseáandánetbeansáloadáplugins,áweámightágoáaálongáway.áAácomponent
> modelámightánotáhurt,ácompleteáwitháself-describingáfeaturesáand
> metadataá(properties,áevents).
>
> Theáotherásideáofáthatáis,áwilláthatástillábeáRexxáorásomethingáelse.
> Marryingátheátwoáwouldábeáaábonusáinámyábook,ásoáa Rexx way of
> software components/pluginsáwithoutátheáoverhead.áIástillácannotáquite
> graspáthatáSOMáwentáoverboardásoáquickly.
>
> IáalwaysásawáNetRexxáasáaádifferentálanguage.áAámoreárationaláand
> pleasant wayátoáuseátheáJVM, and with an heritage of Rexx with some of
> the original choices a bit better, like loop instead of do and case
> insensitive comparisons.áIátotallyáagreeáthatátheáruntimeáisámoreáor
> lessácompleteáandáthatáweáshouldágoátheáwayáofátheácode/component
> exchangeáforámostáofátheáextensions.
>
> Noáreasonánotátoástartánow.ábtwá-áwhereáareátheámembersáonáyourákenai
> siteá-áIásawátwoámembers,áyouáandáme.áComeáonápeople,áitáisáat
> http://projectkenai.com/projects/netrexx-misc/pages/Homeá-áregister
> yourselfáandáfollowátheáproject.
>
> bestáregards,
>
> RenÚáJansen.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:50 PM, David Requena <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> El 03/03/2010 16:48, David Requena escribiˇ:
>>>
>>> > NetRexx already has a behemoth of a library/runtime. If someone (not me)
>>>
>>> Of course I was referring to the java class directly library available to
>>> any NetRexx
>>> program here.
>>>
>>
>> Arrrg! time for a break
>>
>> <translate>the java class library which is directly available
>> to...</translate>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>



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Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] What am I missing?

KP Kirchdörfer
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Am Mittwoch, 3. März 2010 18:02:30 schrieb René Jansen:

> [...]
> No reason not to start now. btw - where are the members on your kenai
> site - I saw two members, you and me. Come on people, it is at
> http://projectkenai.com/projects/netrexx-misc/pages/Home - register
> yourself and follow the project.

There has been some uncertainty about the future of kenai right after David
opened his page. I understand that kenai won't be closed as we has been told
first, but I still do not know, how Oracle will continue this effort and if
the current project pages will stay for a longer time, or if David will be
forced to move to something else in the near future.

Another story is having different sites around for (nearly) the same project.
netrexx.org is a great address, kenai provides a usable(?) project
infrastructure, RexxLA will be the official home of an opensourced NetRexx.

It's not an easy task to catch all the birds, once you let them fly away.

But for shure I like Davids NetRexx page and will register.

regards kp



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David Requena
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El 03/03/2010 18:02, René Jansen escribió:
> well no need to take a break David, I understood you the first time
> around. I think it is not a bad idea if we started to design our code
> repository now. If we have a look at cpan, and for example the way
> eclipse and netbeans load plugins, we might go a long way. A component
> model might not hurt, complete with self-describing features and
> metadata (properties, events).
>
>    
Agreed. This is a very broad subject which I think would greatly benefit
from some serious up front thinking. Starting putting in everyone's ideas
could certainly give us some estimate of what could actually be accomplished
given our resources and expertise.
That said, I wouldn't be too ambitious at the begining. Maybe an indexed and
properly categorized repository could be a good starting point.

> The other side of that is, will that still be Rexx or something else.
> Marrying the two would be a bonus in my book, so a Rexx way of
> software components/plugins without the overhead.
I'm afraid I lack the REXX knowledge required to contribute anything
useful here. Are REXX and ooREXX interoperable today? I've only
used REXX for scripting in my OS/2 days long ago..

>   I still cannot quite
> grasp that SOM went overboard so quickly.
>    

I think this was simply a case of trying to show bigger guns than the
adversary between  IBM with SOM/DSOM and MS with COM/DCOM

> I always saw NetRexx as a different language. A more rational and
> pleasant way to use the JVM, and with an heritage of Rexx with some of
> the original choices a bit better, like loop instead of do and case
> insensitive comparisons. I totally agree that the runtime is more or
> less complete and that we should go the way of the code/component
> exchange for most of the extensions.
>
>    

I 'violently agree' here ;-)


> No reason not to start now. btw - where are the members on your kenai
> site - I saw two members, you and me. Come on people, it is at
> http://projectkenai.com/projects/netrexx-misc/pages/Home - register
> yourself and follow the project.
>
>    

More on this on next email.

> best regards,
>
> René Jansen.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:50 PM, David Requena<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>    
>> El 03/03/2010 16:48, David Requena escribió:
>>      
>>>        
>>>> NetRexx already has a behemoth of a library/runtime. If someone (not me)
>>>>          
>>> Of course I was referring to the java class directly library available to
>>> any NetRexx
>>> program here.
>>>
>>>        
>> Arrrg! time for a break
>>
>> <translate>the java class library which is directly available
>> to...</translate>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>>
>>
>>      
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
>
>    
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] What am I missing?

David Requena
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Fernando,

That is indeed odd. René's email came through ok in ISO-8859-1 from the
list server.
Your quoted text came indeed garbled.

---
Saludos / Kind regards.
David Requena


El 03/03/2010 18:42, Fernando Cassia escribió:

> Dear René,
>
> What in codepage hell can be causing your e-mail to show like egyptian
> hieroglyphs on my unicode-enabled Gmail screen?
>
> http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4164/renejansentimetocallane.jpg
>
> Oh, bummer, imageshack shortened the file name. It was
> "timetocallanexorcist". ;-)
>
> FC
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:02 PM, René Jansen<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>    
>> wellánoáneedáto take a break David,áIáunderstoodáyouátheáfirstátime
>> around.áIáthinkáitáisánotáaábadáideaáifáweástartedátoádesignáourácode
>> repositoryánow.áIfáweáhaveáaálookáatácpan,áandáforáexampleátheáway
>> eclipseáandánetbeansáloadáplugins,áweámightágoáaálongáway.áAácomponent
>> modelámightánotáhurt,ácompleteáwitháself-describingáfeaturesáand
>> metadataá(properties,áevents).
>>
>> Theáotherásideáofáthatáis,áwilláthatástillábeáRexxáorásomethingáelse.
>> Marryingátheátwoáwouldábeáaábonusáinámyábook,ásoáa Rexx way of
>> software components/pluginsáwithoutátheáoverhead.áIástillácannotáquite
>> graspáthatáSOMáwentáoverboardásoáquickly.
>>
>> IáalwaysásawáNetRexxáasáaádifferentálanguage.áAámoreárationaláand
>> pleasant wayátoáuseátheáJVM, and with an heritage of Rexx with some of
>> the original choices a bit better, like loop instead of do and case
>> insensitive comparisons.áIátotallyáagreeáthatátheáruntimeáisámoreáor
>> lessácompleteáandáthatáweáshouldágoátheáwayáofátheácode/component
>> exchangeáforámostáofátheáextensions.
>>
>> Noáreasonánotátoástartánow.ábtwá-áwhereáareátheámembersáonáyourákenai
>> siteá-áIásawátwoámembers,áyouáandáme.áComeáonápeople,áitáisáat
>> http://projectkenai.com/projects/netrexx-misc/pages/Homeá-áregister
>> yourselfáandáfollowátheáproject.
>>
>> bestáregards,
>>
>> RenÚáJansen.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:50 PM, David Requena<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>      
>>> El 03/03/2010 16:48, David Requena escribiˇ:
>>>        
>>>>          
>>>>> NetRexx already has a behemoth of a library/runtime. If someone (not me)
>>>>>            
>>>> Of course I was referring to the java class directly library available to
>>>> any NetRexx
>>>> program here.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Arrrg! time for a break
>>>
>>> <translate>the java class library which is directly available
>>> to...</translate>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>>
>>
>>      
>
>
>    
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] What am I missing?

Peter Sharp
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I'm currently not an active netrexx developer, but I went to the below link to register support and - it's not apparent to me how I can actually register for the netrexx-misc project.  Any pointers would help ...

Peter Sharp
Ballarat Australia


Rene said:

... Come on people, it is at http://projectkenai.com/projects/netrexx-misc/pages/Home -
register yourself and follow the project.

best regards,

René Jansen.

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Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] What am I missing?

David Requena
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El 03/03/2010 20:07, KP Kirchdoerfer escribió:
> Another story is having different sites around for (nearly) the same project.
> netrexx.org is a great address, kenai provides a usable(?) project
> infrastructure, RexxLA will be the official home of an opensourced NetRexx.
>    

I agree and I'm sure RexxLA will in due time provide suitable infrastructure
under netrexx.org. I'll surely be involved in this as far as I'm able
to. I'd like
to see netrexx.org make netrexx-misc unnecessary. There is really no ego in
this cocktail

In the meantime I'll do what is in my hands to improve the ratio of alive to
dead links on google search results for the term "NetRexx" :-)

> It's not an easy task to catch all the birds, once you let them fly away.
>    

That would be true if you ever had caught them in the first place. Anyway,
I feel happy I can see now netrexx-misc as a patch for a temporary hole.
That
was not the case when I started it!

> But for shure I like Davids NetRexx page and will register.
>
>    

Wow, the project reached 4 members!!

To anyone interested in moving beyond the observer role: let me know
in what areas you are interested so proper access rights can be granted.

I've just opened a second (general) forum and some more details in its
first post.

This is not my project, NetRexxDE is, so feel free to propose any ideas you
might have in mind.

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David Requena



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Re: Fwd: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] What am I missing?

David Requena
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Peter,

When you are loged-in to kenai.com and visiting the project page, you'll
find a "Bookmark This Project" at the bottom of the left (blue) panel.

Clicking this will add the project to your "My Page" area as well as joining
you to the project as an "Observer".

---
Saludos / Kind regards.
David Requena

El 03/03/2010 23:21, Peter Sharp escribió:

I'm currently not an active netrexx developer, but I went to the below link to register support and - it's not apparent to me how I can actually register for the netrexx-misc project.  Any pointers would help ...

Peter Sharp
Ballarat Australia


Rene said:

... Come on people, it is at http://projectkenai.com/projects/netrexx-misc/pages/Home -
register yourself and follow the project.

best regards,

René Jansen.
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ReyC: The Rey Compiler.

Thomas.Schneider.Wien
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Hello David & al,
   I just opened (or tried to open) a new project 'reyc' on KENAI, after
becoming a member of your NetRexxDE Project.

Now, a question:

   Would I need SOURCEFORGE at all, or can I use KENAI directly to store
the OPEN SOURCE version
of this project.

   I did choose the BSD Licence, by the way.

kind regards,
Tom.
=========================================================================

David Requena schrieb:

>
> El 03/03/2010 18:02, René Jansen escribió:
>> well no need to take a break David, I understood you the first time
>> around. I think it is not a bad idea if we started to design our code
>> repository now. If we have a look at cpan, and for example the way
>> eclipse and netbeans load plugins, we might go a long way. A component
>> model might not hurt, complete with self-describing features and
>> metadata (properties, events).
>>
>>    
> Agreed. This is a very broad subject which I think would greatly benefit
> from some serious up front thinking. Starting putting in everyone's ideas
> could certainly give us some estimate of what could actually be
> accomplished
> given our resources and expertise.
> That said, I wouldn't be too ambitious at the begining. Maybe an
> indexed and
> properly categorized repository could be a good starting point.
>
>> The other side of that is, will that still be Rexx or something else.
>> Marrying the two would be a bonus in my book, so a Rexx way of
>> software components/plugins without the overhead.
> I'm afraid I lack the REXX knowledge required to contribute anything
> useful here. Are REXX and ooREXX interoperable today? I've only
> used REXX for scripting in my OS/2 days long ago..
>
>>   I still cannot quite
>> grasp that SOM went overboard so quickly.
>>    
>
> I think this was simply a case of trying to show bigger guns than the
> adversary between  IBM with SOM/DSOM and MS with COM/DCOM
>
>> I always saw NetRexx as a different language. A more rational and
>> pleasant way to use the JVM, and with an heritage of Rexx with some of
>> the original choices a bit better, like loop instead of do and case
>> insensitive comparisons. I totally agree that the runtime is more or
>> less complete and that we should go the way of the code/component
>> exchange for most of the extensions.
>>
>>    
>
> I 'violently agree' here ;-)
>
>
>> No reason not to start now. btw - where are the members on your kenai
>> site - I saw two members, you and me. Come on people, it is at
>> http://projectkenai.com/projects/netrexx-misc/pages/Home - register
>> yourself and follow the project.
>>
>>    
>
> More on this on next email.
>
>> best regards,
>>
>> René Jansen.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:50 PM, David Requena<[hidden email]>  
>> wrote:
>>  
>>> El 03/03/2010 16:48, David Requena escribió:
>>>    
>>>>      
>>>>> NetRexx already has a behemoth of a library/runtime. If someone
>>>>> (not me)
>>>>>          
>>>> Of course I was referring to the java class directly library
>>>> available to
>>>> any NetRexx
>>>> program here.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>> Arrrg! time for a break
>>>
>>> <translate>the java class library which is directly available
>>> to...</translate>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>>
>>    
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
>
>

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Re: ReyC: The Rey Compiler.

David Requena
Thomas,

You can use KENAI instead of Source Forge as it provides the same services, if in a much more accessible way.
Mind you other options exist as well.

Your choice of license is a very good one in my view. I'd use the same for NetRexxDE if allowed by its original GPL license.

BlackBerry de movistar, allí donde estés está tu oficin@

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]>
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:04:23
To: IBM Netrexx<[hidden email]>
Subject: [Ibm-netrexx] ReyC: The Rey Compiler.

Hello David & al,
   I just opened (or tried to open) a new project 'reyc' on KENAI, after
becoming a member of your NetRexxDE Project.

Now, a question:

   Would I need SOURCEFORGE at all, or can I use KENAI directly to store
the OPEN SOURCE version
of this project.

   I did choose the BSD Licence, by the way.

kind regards,
Tom.
=========================================================================

David Requena schrieb:

>
> El 03/03/2010 18:02, René Jansen escribió:
>> well no need to take a break David, I understood you the first time
>> around. I think it is not a bad idea if we started to design our code
>> repository now. If we have a look at cpan, and for example the way
>> eclipse and netbeans load plugins, we might go a long way. A component
>> model might not hurt, complete with self-describing features and
>> metadata (properties, events).
>>
>>    
> Agreed. This is a very broad subject which I think would greatly benefit
> from some serious up front thinking. Starting putting in everyone's ideas
> could certainly give us some estimate of what could actually be
> accomplished
> given our resources and expertise.
> That said, I wouldn't be too ambitious at the begining. Maybe an
> indexed and
> properly categorized repository could be a good starting point.
>
>> The other side of that is, will that still be Rexx or something else.
>> Marrying the two would be a bonus in my book, so a Rexx way of
>> software components/plugins without the overhead.
> I'm afraid I lack the REXX knowledge required to contribute anything
> useful here. Are REXX and ooREXX interoperable today? I've only
> used REXX for scripting in my OS/2 days long ago..
>
>>   I still cannot quite
>> grasp that SOM went overboard so quickly.
>>    
>
> I think this was simply a case of trying to show bigger guns than the
> adversary between  IBM with SOM/DSOM and MS with COM/DCOM
>
>> I always saw NetRexx as a different language. A more rational and
>> pleasant way to use the JVM, and with an heritage of Rexx with some of
>> the original choices a bit better, like loop instead of do and case
>> insensitive comparisons. I totally agree that the runtime is more or
>> less complete and that we should go the way of the code/component
>> exchange for most of the extensions.
>>
>>    
>
> I 'violently agree' here ;-)
>
>
>> No reason not to start now. btw - where are the members on your kenai
>> site - I saw two members, you and me. Come on people, it is at
>> http://projectkenai.com/projects/netrexx-misc/pages/Home - register
>> yourself and follow the project.
>>
>>    
>
> More on this on next email.
>
>> best regards,
>>
>> René Jansen.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:50 PM, David Requena<[hidden email]>  
>> wrote:
>>  
>>> El 03/03/2010 16:48, David Requena escribió:
>>>    
>>>>      
>>>>> NetRexx already has a behemoth of a library/runtime. If someone
>>>>> (not me)
>>>>>          
>>>> Of course I was referring to the java class directly library
>>>> available to
>>>> any NetRexx
>>>> program here.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>> Arrrg! time for a break
>>>
>>> <translate>the java class library which is directly available
>>> to...</translate>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>>
>>    
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Re: ReyC: The Rey Compiler.

Thomas.Schneider.Wien
Hasta la Vista, David.
Tom.
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David Requena schrieb:

> Thomas,
>
> You can use KENAI instead of Source Forge as it provides the same services, if in a much more accessible way.
> Mind you other options exist as well.
>
> Your choice of license is a very good one in my view. I'd use the same for NetRexxDE if allowed by its original GPL license.
>
> BlackBerry de movistar, allí donde estés está tu oficin@
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]>
> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:04:23
> To: IBM Netrexx<[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Ibm-netrexx] ReyC: The Rey Compiler.
>
> Hello David & al,
>    I just opened (or tried to open) a new project 'reyc' on KENAI, after
> becoming a member of your NetRexxDE Project.
>
> Now, a question:
>
>    Would I need SOURCEFORGE at all, or can I use KENAI directly to store
> the OPEN SOURCE version
> of this project.
>
>    I did choose the BSD Licence, by the way.
>
> kind regards,
> Tom.
> =========================================================================
>
> David Requena schrieb:
>  
>> El 03/03/2010 18:02, René Jansen escribió:
>>    
>>> well no need to take a break David, I understood you the first time
>>> around. I think it is not a bad idea if we started to design our code
>>> repository now. If we have a look at cpan, and for example the way
>>> eclipse and netbeans load plugins, we might go a long way. A component
>>> model might not hurt, complete with self-describing features and
>>> metadata (properties, events).
>>>
>>>    
>>>      
>> Agreed. This is a very broad subject which I think would greatly benefit
>> from some serious up front thinking. Starting putting in everyone's ideas
>> could certainly give us some estimate of what could actually be
>> accomplished
>> given our resources and expertise.
>> That said, I wouldn't be too ambitious at the begining. Maybe an
>> indexed and
>> properly categorized repository could be a good starting point.
>>
>>    
>>> The other side of that is, will that still be Rexx or something else.
>>> Marrying the two would be a bonus in my book, so a Rexx way of
>>> software components/plugins without the overhead.
>>>      
>> I'm afraid I lack the REXX knowledge required to contribute anything
>> useful here. Are REXX and ooREXX interoperable today? I've only
>> used REXX for scripting in my OS/2 days long ago..
>>
>>    
>>>   I still cannot quite
>>> grasp that SOM went overboard so quickly.
>>>    
>>>      
>> I think this was simply a case of trying to show bigger guns than the
>> adversary between  IBM with SOM/DSOM and MS with COM/DCOM
>>
>>    
>>> I always saw NetRexx as a different language. A more rational and
>>> pleasant way to use the JVM, and with an heritage of Rexx with some of
>>> the original choices a bit better, like loop instead of do and case
>>> insensitive comparisons. I totally agree that the runtime is more or
>>> less complete and that we should go the way of the code/component
>>> exchange for most of the extensions.
>>>
>>>    
>>>      
>> I 'violently agree' here ;-)
>>
>>
>>    
>>> No reason not to start now. btw - where are the members on your kenai
>>> site - I saw two members, you and me. Come on people, it is at
>>> http://projectkenai.com/projects/netrexx-misc/pages/Home - register
>>> yourself and follow the project.
>>>
>>>    
>>>      
>> More on this on next email.
>>
>>    
>>> best regards,
>>>
>>> René Jansen.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:50 PM, David Requena<[hidden email]>  
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>      
>>>> El 03/03/2010 16:48, David Requena escribió:
>>>>    
>>>>        
>>>>>      
>>>>>          
>>>>>> NetRexx already has a behemoth of a library/runtime. If someone
>>>>>> (not me)
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>            
>>>>> Of course I was referring to the java class directly library
>>>>> available to
>>>>> any NetRexx
>>>>> program here.
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>          
>>>> Arrrg! time for a break
>>>>
>>>> <translate>the java class library which is directly available
>>>> to...</translate>
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Re: ReyC: The Rey Compiler.

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On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:42 PM, David Requena <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thomas,

You can use KENAI instead of Source Forge as it provides the same services, if in a much more accessible way.
Mind you other options exist as well.

Your choice of license is a very good one in my view. I'd use the same for NetRexxDE if allowed by its original GPL license.


You cannot take a GPL licensed software and turn it into a non-GPL license. That´s the beauty of the GPL, assuring that it´s kept free forever, something that BSD doesn´t provide..

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Well, actually you can, but only if you are the copyright holder (or
you have the agreement of everybody who contributed to the project).
It's also possible to license code under multiple licenses.  I see
both of these scenarios a lot in the open source world.  You just need
to ensure that you have the right to make the switch as a result of
ownership.

Rick

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Fernando Cassia <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
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> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:42 PM, David Requena <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Thomas,
>>
>> You can use KENAI instead of Source Forge as it provides the same
>> services, if in a much more accessible way.
>> Mind you other options exist as well.
>>
>> Your choice of license is a very good one in my view. I'd use the same for
>> NetRexxDE if allowed by its original GPL license.
>>
>
> You cannot take a GPL licensed software and turn it into a non-GPL license.
> That´s the beauty of the GPL, assuring that it´s kept free forever,
> something that BSD doesn´t provide..
>
> FC
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Re: ReyC: The Rey Compiler.

Thomas.Schneider.Wien
Hello Rick,
    thanks for prompt reply.
Actually: All the Code for the Rey Compiler has been written with *my
own* 20 Fingers ;-)

Thats also the reason for my too frequent misspelling.   Typing too
quick . ;-)
Tom.

IE: I am (personally) the *OWNER* of all of my Software.
Full Stop.
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Rick McGuire schrieb:

> Well, actually you can, but only if you are the copyright holder (or
> you have the agreement of everybody who contributed to the project).
> It's also possible to license code under multiple licenses.  I see
> both of these scenarios a lot in the open source world.  You just need
> to ensure that you have the right to make the switch as a result of
> ownership.
>
> Rick
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Fernando Cassia <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  
>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:42 PM, David Requena <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>    
>>> Thomas,
>>>
>>> You can use KENAI instead of Source Forge as it provides the same
>>> services, if in a much more accessible way.
>>> Mind you other options exist as well.
>>>
>>> Your choice of license is a very good one in my view. I'd use the same for
>>> NetRexxDE if allowed by its original GPL license.
>>>
>>>      
>> You cannot take a GPL licensed software and turn it into a non-GPL license.
>> That´s the beauty of the GPL, assuring that it´s kept free forever,
>> something that BSD doesn´t provide..
>>
>> FC
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Re: ReyC: The Rey Compiler.

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El 05/03/2010 17:45, Fernando Cassia escribió:
Your choice of license is a very good one in my view. I'd use the same for NetRexxDE if allowed by its original GPL license.


You cannot take a GPL licensed software and turn it into a non-GPL license. That´s the beauty of the GPL, assuring that it´s kept free forever, something that BSD doesn´t provide..


Fernando,

I somehow fail to see how your first statement differs from what I said.

OTH, the BSD style licenses assure that what I release will be always free
as much as the GPL.

What it does not´t do is going to great lengths in order to assure that any
possible modification, or any product in which may work is incorporated
will also be free (in FSF's definition of the term).

When I release some OSS I own, I make the choice to allow 'non-free' use of
if as long as my copyright over parts of the resulting product is clearly
stated. This is of course not the case with NetRexxDE.

In the case of NetRexx supporting tools and libraries this is clearly more
likely to help the language spread and achieve mainstream acceptance.


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