Fwd: [netrexx-dev] NetRexx Plugin for jEdit questions

[Kermit Kiser]

To all NetRexxers -

David Requena and I are developing a new plugin for jEdit to support NetRexx programmers. It will replace the current NetRexxJE, NetRexxDE and NetRexxScript plugins and eventually merge the NetRexx compile and interpret functions into one logical entity. As you can see from the attached message, there are a couple of outstanding questions related to the development:

1) Does anyone still require support for jEdit version 4.2?

2) Does anyone see a problem with running NetRexx programs in the jEdit Java context?

If no one reports any issues with these items, I will proceed with the assumption that jEdit 4.2 support is no longer required and that running NetRexx programs in the jEdit Java context is OK.

-- Kermit

PS: If you decide to help with early testing, be aware that although the plugin is now functional (I use it for my work), development is only about half done - The compile and interpret functions are still separate and the help documents have not been updated at all. Also note: (1) The after3.01 NetRexxC.jar compiler (available from the NetRexx Plus project on Kenai) is required. (2) The old NetRexxDE and NetRexxScript plugins need to be removed from the jEdit jars directory and the new NetRexxPlugin.jar and NetRexxC.jar need to be copied there before restarting jEdit. (3) The most current version of the NetRexx Android IDE requires this plugin and is therefore included in the plugin.

-------- Original Message --------

Subject:	[netrexx-dev] NetRexx Plugin for jEdit questions
Date:	Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:57:38 -1000
From:	Kermit Kiser [hidden email]
Reply-To:	[hidden email]
To:	[hidden email]

David and all concerned:

I was able to modify the new plugin to run with the old jEdit 4.2 
version although it did require a patch to the NetRexxC compiler. 
Question - How important is support for jEdit 4.2 now? I ask because it 
requires some devious tricks to handle (it may be impossible to continue 
supporting 4.2 indefinitely) and the value seems quite limited. Three 
years ago when I released the NetRexxScript plugin, a few NetRexx 
programmers insisted on support for jEdit 4.2 because they were stuck 
using it for various reasons. If no one on this list knows if that is 
still a requirement, I will ask on the general NetRexx list.

In between Android programming, I have been considering your desire to 
merge the compile/interpret windows and options. Most of the issues 
(such as merging the two classpaths) I think I can figure out. But the 
big one that stumps me is that NetRexxDE runs NetRexx programs in a 
separate Java environment while NetRexxScript runs scripts and macros in 
the jEdit context with access to the components of that environment. 
Apart from that issue I think it should be simple to check if there is a 
compiled version of the program available which is "up-to-date" when the 
user clicks the "run" button and invoke it if so and if that is not 
available simply interpret the NetRexx source code. My question - Would 
it cause any significant problem to run all programs, scripts and macros 
in the jEdit Java environment?

-- Kermit

Latest 0.2.6 test version here:

http://kenai.com/projects/netrexx-plus/downloads/directory/jEdit%20NetRexxPlugin

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[ThSITC]

Hi Kermit, David,

those are *great news* :-)

Thanks a lot for your efforts.

I do even more appreciate the availability of the NetRexx Android IDE with the new version, as we
are going to develop a new ANDROID Application starting 1.1.2013.

Did already switch to the new version, and will, for sure, report any problems I find (which I don't expect,
based on the professionality how you are both doing your jobs there...)

One question, Kermit, as usual:

Shall I report issues which might be of *general interest* here on ibm-netrexx, so that all
ibm-netrexxers shall get your answers?

Thomas.
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Am 20.10.2012 22:22, schrieb Kermit Kiser:

To all NetRexxers -

David Requena and I are developing a new plugin for jEdit to support NetRexx programmers. It will replace the current NetRexxJE, NetRexxDE and NetRexxScript plugins and eventually merge the NetRexx compile and interpret functions into one logical entity. As you can see from the attached message, there are a couple of outstanding questions related to the development:

1) Does anyone still require support for jEdit version 4.2?

2) Does anyone see a problem with running NetRexx programs in the jEdit Java context?

If no one reports any issues with these items, I will proceed with the assumption that jEdit 4.2 support is no longer required and that running NetRexx programs in the jEdit Java context is OK.

-- Kermit

PS: If you decide to help with early testing, be aware that although the plugin is now functional (I use it for my work), development is only about half done - The compile and interpret functions are still separate and the help documents have not been updated at all. Also note: (1) The after3.01 NetRexxC.jar compiler (available from the NetRexx Plus project on Kenai) is required. (2) The old NetRexxDE and NetRexxScript plugins need to be removed from the jEdit jars directory and the new NetRexxPlugin.jar and NetRexxC.jar need to be copied there before restarting jEdit. (3) The most current version of the NetRexx Android IDE requires this plugin and is therefore included in the plugin.

-------- Original Message --------

Subject:	[netrexx-dev] NetRexx Plugin for jEdit questions
Date:	Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:57:38 -1000
From:	Kermit Kiser [hidden email]
Reply-To:	[hidden email]
To:	[hidden email]

David and all concerned:

I was able to modify the new plugin to run with the old jEdit 4.2 
version although it did require a patch to the NetRexxC compiler. 
Question - How important is support for jEdit 4.2 now? I ask because it 
requires some devious tricks to handle (it may be impossible to continue 
supporting 4.2 indefinitely) and the value seems quite limited. Three 
years ago when I released the NetRexxScript plugin, a few NetRexx 
programmers insisted on support for jEdit 4.2 because they were stuck 
using it for various reasons. If no one on this list knows if that is 
still a requirement, I will ask on the general NetRexx list.

In between Android programming, I have been considering your desire to 
merge the compile/interpret windows and options. Most of the issues 
(such as merging the two classpaths) I think I can figure out. But the 
big one that stumps me is that NetRexxDE runs NetRexx programs in a 
separate Java environment while NetRexxScript runs scripts and macros in 
the jEdit context with access to the components of that environment. 
Apart from that issue I think it should be simple to check if there is a 
compiled version of the program available which is "up-to-date" when the 
user clicks the "run" button and invoke it if so and if that is not 
available simply interpret the NetRexx source code. My question - Would 
it cause any significant problem to run all programs, scripts and macros 
in the jEdit Java environment?

-- Kermit

Latest 0.2.6 test version here:

http://kenai.com/projects/netrexx-plus/downloads/directory/jEdit%20NetRexxPlugin

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[Kermit Kiser]

Thomas -

Thanks for trying out the plugin. Please do not obsess about the NetRexx mailing lists - we monitor them all and if you let us know about something of general interest, we will make sure that any important information gets to the right places.

-- Kermit

On 10/20/2012 9:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote:

Hi Kermit, David,

those are *great news* :-)

Thanks a lot for your efforts.

I do even more appreciate the availability of the NetRexx Android IDE with the new version, as we
are going to develop a new ANDROID Application starting 1.1.2013.

Did already switch to the new version, and will, for sure, report any problems I find (which I don't expect,
based on the professionality how you are both doing your jobs there...)

One question, Kermit, as usual:

Shall I report issues which might be of *general interest* here on ibm-netrexx, so that all
ibm-netrexxers shall get your answers?

Thomas.
=======================================================================
Am 20.10.2012 22:22, schrieb Kermit Kiser:

To all NetRexxers -

David Requena and I are developing a new plugin for jEdit to support NetRexx programmers. It will replace the current NetRexxJE, NetRexxDE and NetRexxScript plugins and eventually merge the NetRexx compile and interpret functions into one logical entity. As you can see from the attached message, there are a couple of outstanding questions related to the development:

1) Does anyone still require support for jEdit version 4.2?

2) Does anyone see a problem with running NetRexx programs in the jEdit Java context?

If no one reports any issues with these items, I will proceed with the assumption that jEdit 4.2 support is no longer required and that running NetRexx programs in the jEdit Java context is OK.

-- Kermit

PS: If you decide to help with early testing, be aware that although the plugin is now functional (I use it for my work), development is only about half done - The compile and interpret functions are still separate and the help documents have not been updated at all. Also note: (1) The after3.01 NetRexxC.jar compiler (available from the NetRexx Plus project on Kenai) is required. (2) The old NetRexxDE and NetRexxScript plugins need to be removed from the jEdit jars directory and the new NetRexxPlugin.jar and NetRexxC.jar need to be copied there before restarting jEdit. (3) The most current version of the NetRexx Android IDE requires this plugin and is therefore included in the plugin.

-------- Original Message --------

Subject:	[netrexx-dev] NetRexx Plugin for jEdit questions
Date:	Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:57:38 -1000
From:	Kermit Kiser [hidden email]
Reply-To:	[hidden email]
To:	[hidden email]

David and all concerned:

I was able to modify the new plugin to run with the old jEdit 4.2 
version although it did require a patch to the NetRexxC compiler. 
Question - How important is support for jEdit 4.2 now? I ask because it 
requires some devious tricks to handle (it may be impossible to continue 
supporting 4.2 indefinitely) and the value seems quite limited. Three 
years ago when I released the NetRexxScript plugin, a few NetRexx 
programmers insisted on support for jEdit 4.2 because they were stuck 
using it for various reasons. If no one on this list knows if that is 
still a requirement, I will ask on the general NetRexx list.

In between Android programming, I have been considering your desire to 
merge the compile/interpret windows and options. Most of the issues 
(such as merging the two classpaths) I think I can figure out. But the 
big one that stumps me is that NetRexxDE runs NetRexx programs in a 
separate Java environment while NetRexxScript runs scripts and macros in 
the jEdit context with access to the components of that environment. 
Apart from that issue I think it should be simple to check if there is a 
compiled version of the program available which is "up-to-date" when the 
user clicks the "run" button and invoke it if so and if that is not 
available simply interpret the NetRexx source code. My question - Would 
it cause any significant problem to run all programs, scripts and macros 
in the jEdit Java environment?

-- Kermit

Latest 0.2.6 test version here:

http://kenai.com/projects/netrexx-plus/downloads/directory/jEdit%20NetRexxPlugin

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