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Dave Woodman

Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

And the relevant foobaren, from my 64bit W7 appear to be

ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86)
ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files

Dave.

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The way to indirect is to use a %foobar% [I forget the correct spelling of
'foobar' for 'Program Files'].

Another technique is to use the 8.3 spelling of the name: Progra~1 (All
folders have an 8-character no-blank unique name in Windows.)

> > (That's the plural of *Programm*, in german, which is named
> > *Program* (in english))

In English it is 'Programme', too. In American English it is abbreviated to
'Program'. In general, in England, we use 'programme' when talking about a
programme of events (e.g., at a theatre) and 'program' to refer to computer
software. A useful distinction :-).

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Dave Woodman

Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

Or, unmangled, to clarify

ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86)
ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files

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And the relevant foobaren, from my 64bit W7 appear to be

ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files

Dave.

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The way to indirect is to use a %foobar% [I forget the correct spelling of
'foobar' for 'Program Files'].

Another technique is to use the 8.3 spelling of the name: Progra~1 (All
folders have an 8-character no-blank unique name in Windows.)

> > (That's the plural of *Programm*, in german, which is named
> > *Program* (in english))

In English it is 'Programme', too. In American English it is abbreviated to
'Program'. In general, in England, we use 'programme' when talking about a
programme of events (e.g., at a theatre) and 'program' to refer to computer
software. A useful distinction :-).

Mike

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ThSITC

Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

In reply to this post by Mike Cowlishaw

Thus, I did *and* do become even more convinced, that the ENGLISH Language
does have *a lot* of local Dialects (UK and US English only included
for sample!)

Do *not* worry, friends:

We here in Austria are saying *Schlagobers*, where the Germans insist to
say: *Sahne*,
etc, etc, etc

*And* When an *Austrian Vorarlberger* is talking to a *Viennise*, it's
sounding, as if
the *Vorarlberger* would be an *Appenzeller*, which is Kanton of
*Switzerland*,
as You do know, for sure .... ;-)

Europe is different to the US, people!

Lot's of different Cultures and History!

I'm, personally, very *grateful for this*.

It would be *boring* to live in a world with 7 Milliards of CLONES of
Thomas Schneider...

Nothing to talk, anymore, with your Neighbour ... :-(

M assa Thomas ;-)
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Am 13.09.2012 18:01, schrieb Mike Cowlishaw:

> The way to indirect is to use a %foobar% [I forget the correct spelling of
> 'foobar' for 'Program Files'].
>
> Another technique is to use the 8.3 spelling of the name: Progra~1
> (All folders have an 8-character no-blank unique name in Windows.)
>
>>> (That's the plural of *Programm*, in german, which is named
>>> *Program* (in english))
> In English it is 'Programme', too. In American English it is abbreviated to
> 'Program'. In general, in England, we use 'programme' when talking about a
> programme of events (e.g., at a theatre) and 'program' to refer to computer
> software. A useful distinction :-).
>
> Mike
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rvjansen

Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

Thomas,

please get a grip on yourself.

René.

On 2012-09-14 12:04, Thomas Schneider wrote:
> Thus,

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christel.u.w.pachl christel.u.w.pachl

Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

In reply to this post by kenner

I guess this means that you SHOULD NOT spit out so much unrelated and less than interesting
stuff on this and other lists.
Please stop also announcing some/all of your products until you deliver ONE!!!!
We all know by now what you are working on but never saw RESULTS!
Walter

---- rvjansen <[hidden email]> schrieb:
> Thomas,

please get a grip on yourself.

René.

On 2012-09-14 12:04, Thomas Schneider wrote:
> Thus,

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Mike Cowlishaw

Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

In reply to this post by Dave Woodman

I was referring to the 'Built-in' environment variables that sort out this sort
of thing for one, just looked it up and the relevant one is:

%ProgramFiles%

See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable#Common_environment_variables

Mike

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> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
> Sent: 13 September 2012 18:47
> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>
> Or, unmangled, to clarify
>
> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:57
> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>
> And the relevant foobaren, from my 64bit W7 appear to be
>
> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Mike Cowlishaw
> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:01
> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>
> The way to indirect is to use a %foobar% [I forget the
> correct spelling of 'foobar' for 'Program Files'].
>
> Another technique is to use the 8.3 spelling of the name:
> Progra~1 (All folders have an 8-character no-blank unique
> name in Windows.)
>
> > > (That's the plural of *Programm*, in german, which is named
> > > *Program* (in english))
>
> In English it is 'Programme', too. In American English it is
> abbreviated to 'Program'. In general, in England, we use
> 'programme' when talking about a programme of events (e.g.,
> at a theatre) and 'program' to refer to computer software. A
> useful distinction :-).
>
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Dave Woodman

Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

Exactly - these are all the built in ones on my system,

The problem is that 64bit systems have TWO "Program Files" one for 64 bit
and one for 32.

Dave.

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Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga

I was referring to the 'Built-in' environment variables that sort out this
sort of thing for one, just looked it up and the relevant one is:

%ProgramFiles%

See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable#Common_environment_variabl
es

Mike

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> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
> Sent: 13 September 2012 18:47
> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>
> Or, unmangled, to clarify
>
> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:57
> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>
> And the relevant foobaren, from my 64bit W7 appear to be
>
> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike
> Cowlishaw
> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:01
> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>
> The way to indirect is to use a %foobar% [I forget the correct
> spelling of 'foobar' for 'Program Files'].
>
> Another technique is to use the 8.3 spelling of the name:
> Progra~1 (All folders have an 8-character no-blank unique name in
> Windows.)
>
> > > (That's the plural of *Programm*, in german, which is named
> > > *Program* (in english))
>
> In English it is 'Programme', too. In American English it is
> abbreviated to 'Program'. In general, in England, we use 'programme'
> when talking about a programme of events (e.g., at a theatre) and
> 'program' to refer to computer software. A useful distinction :-).
>
> Mike
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billfen

Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

I would assume that the same one that Java used might be the appropriate
choice. Since there is no actual 32 or 64 bit code in NetRexx, I would
think that either could be used.

Here is a link describing Java and 64 bit

http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml

On 9/14/2012 10:55 AM, Dave Woodman wrote:

> Exactly - these are all the built in ones on my system,
>
> The problem is that 64bit systems have TWO "Program Files" one for 64 bit
> and one for 32.
>
> Dave.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Cowlishaw
> Sent: 14 September 2012 15:36
> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>
> I was referring to the 'Built-in' environment variables that sort out this
> sort of thing for one, just looked it up and the relevant one is:
>
> %ProgramFiles%
>
> See also:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable#Common_environment_variabl
> es
>
> Mike
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>> Sent: 13 September 2012 18:47
>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>
>> Or, unmangled, to clarify
>>
>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:57
>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>
>> And the relevant foobaren, from my 64bit W7 appear to be
>>
>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike
>> Cowlishaw
>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:01
>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>
>> The way to indirect is to use a %foobar% [I forget the correct
>> spelling of 'foobar' for 'Program Files'].
>>
>> Another technique is to use the 8.3 spelling of the name:
>> Progra~1 (All folders have an 8-character no-blank unique name in
>> Windows.)
>>
>>>> (That's the plural of *Programm*, in german, which is named
>>>> *Program* (in english))
>> In English it is 'Programme', too. In American English it is
>> abbreviated to 'Program'. In general, in England, we use 'programme'
>> when talking about a programme of events (e.g., at a theatre) and
>> 'program' to refer to computer software. A useful distinction :-).
>>
>> Mike
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billfen

Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

After looking at this a bit, I think the 64 bit issue is only with the
Java browser plugin?

Is there someone out there with a 64 bit windows system who can tell us
where Java is installed? I suspect that it is in "Program Files", but I
am unable to check since I'm still using XP Pro.

On 9/14/2012 11:01 AM, Bill Fenlason wrote:

> I would assume that the same one that Java used might be the
> appropriate choice. Since there is no actual 32 or 64 bit code in
> NetRexx, I would think that either could be used.
>
> Here is a link describing Java and 64 bit
>
> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
>
> On 9/14/2012 10:55 AM, Dave Woodman wrote:
>> Exactly - these are all the built in ones on my system,
>>
>> The problem is that 64bit systems have TWO "Program Files" one for 64
>> bit
>> and one for 32.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Cowlishaw
>> Sent: 14 September 2012 15:36
>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>
>> I was referring to the 'Built-in' environment variables that sort out
>> this
>> sort of thing for one, just looked it up and the relevant one is:
>>
>> %ProgramFiles%
>>
>> See also:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable#Common_environment_variabl
>>
>> es
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 18:47
>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>
>>> Or, unmangled, to clarify
>>>
>>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:57
>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>
>>> And the relevant foobaren, from my 64bit W7 appear to be
>>>
>>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike
>>> Cowlishaw
>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:01
>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>
>>> The way to indirect is to use a %foobar% [I forget the correct
>>> spelling of 'foobar' for 'Program Files'].
>>>
>>> Another technique is to use the 8.3 spelling of the name:
>>> Progra~1 (All folders have an 8-character no-blank unique name in
>>> Windows.)
>>>
>>>>> (That's the plural of *Programm*, in german, which is named
>>>>> *Program* (in english))
>>> In English it is 'Programme', too. In American English it is
>>> abbreviated to 'Program'. In general, in England, we use 'programme'
>>> when talking about a programme of events (e.g., at a theatre) and
>>> 'program' to refer to computer software. A useful distinction :-).
>>>
>>> Mike

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measel

Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

My windows 7 --> C:\Windows\System32\java.exe

( plus 8 other places put there by various products)

The program files x(86) java directory does *not* contain java.exe

C:\Users\meaje04>java -version
java version "1.6.0_20"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode)

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Fenlason
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:39 AM
To: IBM Netrexx
Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga

After looking at this a bit, I think the 64 bit issue is only with the
Java browser plugin?

Is there someone out there with a 64 bit windows system who can tell us
where Java is installed? I suspect that it is in "Program Files", but I
am unable to check since I'm still using XP Pro.

On 9/14/2012 11:01 AM, Bill Fenlason wrote:

George Hovey-2

Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

Bill,
On 64-bit Win 7 Professional, Java is under 'Program Files (x86)' which wikipedia says is the 32-bit directory (64-bit programs are under 'Program Files').

BTW: I find this entry in 'classpath' for a fresh command window:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\lib\ext\QTJava.zip

Looks like Thomas is not alone :)

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Measel, Mike <[hidden email]> wrote:

My windows 7 --> C:\Windows\System32\java.exe

( plus 8 other places put there by various products)

The program files x(86) java directory does *not* contain java.exe

C:\Users\meaje04>java -version
java version "1.6.0_20"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode)

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:39 AM
To: IBM Netrexx
Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga

After looking at this a bit, I think the 64 bit issue is only with the
Java browser plugin?

Is there someone out there with a 64 bit windows system who can tell us
where Java is installed? I suspect that it is in "Program Files", but I
am unable to check since I'm still using XP Pro.

On 9/14/2012 11:01 AM, Bill Fenlason wrote:
> I would assume that the same one that Java used might be the
> appropriate choice. Since there is no actual 32 or 64 bit code in
> NetRexx, I would think that either could be used.
>
> Here is a link describing Java and 64 bit
>
> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
>
> On 9/14/2012 10:55 AM, Dave Woodman wrote:
>> Exactly - these are all the built in ones on my system,
>>
>> The problem is that 64bit systems have TWO "Program Files" one for 64
>> bit
>> and one for 32.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Cowlishaw
>> Sent: 14 September 2012 15:36
>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>
>> I was referring to the 'Built-in' environment variables that sort out
>> this
>> sort of thing for one, just looked it up and the relevant one is:
>>
>> %ProgramFiles%
>>
>> See also:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable#Common_environment_variabl
>>
>> es
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 18:47
>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>
>>> Or, unmangled, to clarify
>>>
>>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:57
>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>
>>> And the relevant foobaren, from my 64bit W7 appear to be
>>>
>>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike
>>> Cowlishaw
>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:01
>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>
>>> The way to indirect is to use a %foobar% [I forget the correct
>>> spelling of 'foobar' for 'Program Files'].
>>>
>>> Another technique is to use the 8.3 spelling of the name:
>>> Progra~1 (All folders have an 8-character no-blank unique name in
>>> Windows.)
>>>
>>>>> (That's the plural of *Programm*, in german, which is named
>>>>> *Program* (in english))
>>> In English it is 'Programme', too. In American English it is
>>> abbreviated to 'Program'. In general, in England, we use 'programme'
>>> when talking about a programme of events (e.g., at a theatre) and
>>> 'program' to refer to computer software. A useful distinction :-).
>>>
>>> Mike

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Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

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Mike, thanks. This page seems to imply that JDK installations for Java
7 are using \Program Files\Oracle\ as well as \Program Files\Java\
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/install/windows/jdk-installation-windows.html

I suspect the installer will have to look in all the possible places,
pick a default, and ask the user what he wants. If Izpack is the
answer, perhaps there is an equivalent way to get the JDK installed as
well as the JRE using the Windows native launcher.

On 9/14/2012 11:52 AM, Measel, Mike wrote:

> My windows 7 --> C:\Windows\System32\java.exe
>
> ( plus 8 other places put there by various products)
>
> The program files x(86) java directory does *not* contain java.exe
>
> C:\Users\meaje04>java -version
> java version "1.6.0_20"
> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Fenlason
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:39 AM
> To: IBM Netrexx
> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>
> After looking at this a bit, I think the 64 bit issue is only with the
> Java browser plugin?
>
> Is there someone out there with a 64 bit windows system who can tell us
> where Java is installed? I suspect that it is in "Program Files", but I
> am unable to check since I'm still using XP Pro.
>
> On 9/14/2012 11:01 AM, Bill Fenlason wrote:
>> I would assume that the same one that Java used might be the
>> appropriate choice. Since there is no actual 32 or 64 bit code in
>> NetRexx, I would think that either could be used.
>>
>> Here is a link describing Java and 64 bit
>>
>> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
>>
>> On 9/14/2012 10:55 AM, Dave Woodman wrote:
>>> Exactly - these are all the built in ones on my system,
>>>
>>> The problem is that 64bit systems have TWO "Program Files" one for 64
>>> bit
>>> and one for 32.
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Cowlishaw
>>> Sent: 14 September 2012 15:36
>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>
>>> I was referring to the 'Built-in' environment variables that sort out
>>> this
>>> sort of thing for one, just looked it up and the relevant one is:
>>>
>>> %ProgramFiles%
>>>
>>> See also:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable#Common_environment_variabl
>>>
>>> es
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [hidden email]
>>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 18:47
>>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>>
>>>> Or, unmangled, to clarify
>>>>
>>>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>>>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [hidden email]
>>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:57
>>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>>
>>>> And the relevant foobaren, from my 64bit W7 appear to be
>>>>
>>>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>>>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>>>
>>>> Dave.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [hidden email]
>>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike
>>>> Cowlishaw
>>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:01
>>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>>
>>>> The way to indirect is to use a %foobar% [I forget the correct
>>>> spelling of 'foobar' for 'Program Files'].
>>>>
>>>> Another technique is to use the 8.3 spelling of the name:
>>>> Progra~1 (All folders have an 8-character no-blank unique name in
>>>> Windows.)
>>>>
>>>>>> (That's the plural of *Programm*, in german, which is named
>>>>>> *Program* (in english))
>>>> In English it is 'Programme', too. In American English it is
>>>> abbreviated to 'Program'. In general, in England, we use 'programme'
>>>> when talking about a programme of events (e.g., at a theatre) and
>>>> 'program' to refer to computer software. A useful distinction :-).
>>>>
>>>> Mike
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Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

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QTjava is Quick Time player. Stripped down runtime.

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of George Hovey
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:21 AM
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C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\lib\ext\QTJava.zip

Looks like Thomas is not alone :)

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Measel, Mike <[hidden email]> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Fenlason
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:39 AM
To: IBM Netrexx
Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga

After looking at this a bit, I think the 64 bit issue is only with the
Java browser plugin?

Is there someone out there with a 64 bit windows system who can tell us
where Java is installed? I suspect that it is in "Program Files", but I
am unable to check since I'm still using XP Pro.

On 9/14/2012 11:01 AM, Bill Fenlason wrote:
> I would assume that the same one that Java used might be the
> appropriate choice. Since there is no actual 32 or 64 bit code in
> NetRexx, I would think that either could be used.
>
> Here is a link describing Java and 64 bit
>
> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
>
> On 9/14/2012 10:55 AM, Dave Woodman wrote:
>> Exactly - these are all the built in ones on my system,
>>
>> The problem is that 64bit systems have TWO "Program Files" one for 64
>> bit
>> and one for 32.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Cowlishaw
>> Sent: 14 September 2012 15:36
>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>
>> I was referring to the 'Built-in' environment variables that sort out
>> this
>> sort of thing for one, just looked it up and the relevant one is:
>>
>> %ProgramFiles%
>>
>> See also:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable#Common_environment_variabl
>>
>> es
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 18:47
>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>
>>> Or, unmangled, to clarify
>>>
>>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:57
>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>
>>> And the relevant foobaren, from my 64bit W7 appear to be
>>>
>>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike
>>> Cowlishaw
>>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:01
>>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>>
>>> The way to indirect is to use a %foobar% [I forget the correct
>>> spelling of 'foobar' for 'Program Files'].
>>>
>>> Another technique is to use the 8.3 spelling of the name:
>>> Progra~1 (All folders have an 8-character no-blank unique name in
>>> Windows.)
>>>
>>>>> (That's the plural of *Programm*, in german, which is named
>>>>> *Program* (in english))
>>> In English it is 'Programme', too. In American English it is
>>> abbreviated to 'Program'. In general, in England, we use 'programme'
>>> when talking about a programme of events (e.g., at a theatre) and
>>> 'program' to refer to computer software. A useful distinction :-).
>>>
>>> Mike

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Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

In reply to this post by measel

Hi Mike Measel, and all, I am following this discussiion (quietly at the
minute) ...

Mike, could you *Please run* Kermit Kisers: enviroment.nrx on your machine,
... and forward the details (included in plain source) here for our
common investigation,

......... AS ATTACHMENTS are still NOT allowed on this marveklous group ??
............... Needless to say, at this point, I do hope, that most (if
not all) of the other
FORUMS I am subcripted on *DO ALLOW ATTACHMENTS* nowaday ...

Cracy Uncle Tom (as *you* did call me, I think, some time ago ... ;-)
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Am 14.09.2012 17:52, schrieb Measel, Mike:

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Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

In reply to this post by Mike Cowlishaw

*Very Interesting*, Mike!

My (english language installed NetBook with Windows XP does say:
Programs ...*

But maybe I will get really *CRAZY* with all those *always changing*
details of M$ !!!

Thomas.
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Am 14.09.2012 16:36, schrieb Mike Cowlishaw:

> I was referring to the 'Built-in' environment variables that sort out this sort
> of thing for one, just looked it up and the relevant one is:
>
> %ProgramFiles%
>
> See also:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable#Common_environment_variables
>
> Mike
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>> Sent: 13 September 2012 18:47
>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>
>> Or, unmangled, to clarify
>>
>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Woodman
>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:57
>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>
>> And the relevant foobaren, from my 64bit W7 appear to be
>>
>> ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>> ProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86) ProgramW6432=C:\Program Files
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>> Mike Cowlishaw
>> Sent: 13 September 2012 17:01
>> To: 'IBM Netrexx'
>> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] eternal headache of the java classpath saga
>>
>> The way to indirect is to use a %foobar% [I forget the
>> correct spelling of 'foobar' for 'Program Files'].
>>
>> Another technique is to use the 8.3 spelling of the name:
>> Progra~1 (All folders have an 8-character no-blank unique
>> name in Windows.)
>>
>>>> (That's the plural of *Programm*, in german, which is named
>>>> *Program* (in english))
>> In English it is 'Programme', too. In American English it is
>> abbreviated to 'Program'. In general, in England, we use
>> 'programme' when talking about a programme of events (e.g.,
>> at a theatre) and 'program' to refer to computer software. A
>> useful distinction :-).
>>
>> Mike
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My english is too bad: What do you mean? What is a GRIP on yourself!
Thomas.
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Am 14.09.2012 12:08, schrieb rvjansen:

> Thomas,
>
> please get a grip on yourself.
>
> René.
>
> On 2012-09-14 12:04, Thomas Schneider wrote:
>> Thus,
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Re: [Spam] Re: eternal headache of the java classpath saga

http://www.dict.cc
enter grip on yourself

to get a grip on oneself sich am Riemen reißen [ugs.]

etc.

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My english is too bad: What do you mean? What is a GRIP on yourself!
Thomas.
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Ich *reiße mich am Riemen* (I do GRIP myself)!

Ich habe aber leider *nur mehr 6 Zähne*, und die GOSCHEN TUT mir weh!

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Am 14.09.2012 19:03, schrieb Walter Pachl:

> http://www.dict.cc
> enter grip on yourself
>
> to get a grip on oneself sich am Riemen reißen [ugs.]
>
> etc.
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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>
> My english is too bad: What do you mean? What is a GRIP on yourself!
> Thomas.
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> Am 14.09.2012 12:08, schrieb rvjansen:
>> Thomas,
>>
>> please get a grip on yourself.
>>
>> René.
>>
>> On 2012-09-14 12:04, Thomas Schneider wrote:
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