NetRexx GUI Development -- PLans and Issues!
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*all of us* there at IBM-NetRexx be aware of :-) As you (most probably) meanwhile do know, I'm trying to follow a lot of conversations ;-) I do, personally, think that we there at tre NetRexx Community to find as stadardized way (in NetRexx) how GUI develioment for NetRexx should be done. *And*, whenever possible, please do NOT indulge me to CROSS-Post any issues we are already aware of! I'm, personally, having any *possible SRESS* by working here alone in Vienna :-( Thomas Schneider. ========================================================================================== -------- Original-Nachricht --------
Hello, On NetBeans RCP if you are developing UI, you are still developing Swing application. So, if you are new to Java GUI development, Swing is still a foundation that you will need to learn. NetBeans offers you a high level API that solves many common problems you would face in almost any UI application (and even more other non-UI related design issues) As someone who have worked with plain Swing, Swing Application Framework and currently with NetBeans RCP, I would strongly recommend NetBeans. Kind Regards, Igor On 1/16/2012 11:22 PM, Bernard Fitzgerald wrote: As a new Java GUI developer, should I be even considering Swing or just the NetBeans Platform? -----Original Message----- From: Fabrizio Giudici [[hidden email]] Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2012 09:11 To: [hidden email]; FatButtLarry Cc: [hidden email] Subject: [platform-dev] Re: [nbusers] Swing Framework No longer Supported? On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:05:50 +0100, FatButtLarry [hidden email] wrote:This is ugly and confusing to someone just starting with Java, however, after exploring the features the framework had to offer, I grew very fond of the "Loosely coupling Actions to their presentation", which provided a quick and easy way to do Threading (Background tasks), with a small learning curve and without the headache normally introduced with invoking the same Runnable thread interface each time.The NetBeans Platform provides very good decoupling of Actions and also other stuff. Give it a try, you can include a minimum set of initial features and later grow up if you need more stuff. If you have questions about that, ask to [hidden email] . --
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Thomas Schneider, Vienna, Austria (Europe) :-)
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Re: NetRexx GUI Development -- PLans and Issues!
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On 1/16/2012 5:02 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote:
There are (essentially) three ways, Thomas. 1. Use Netbeans IDE to create the GUI 2. Use Eclipse IDE to create the GUI 3. Code the GUI by hand (as K.Klein's recent examples show) Choice of IDE is a personal (or corporate) decision. Coding by hand subdivides into a number of Layout Managers (MigLayout, BorderLayout, GridLayout, ..., the list goes on (and on)). I don't think you're going to be able to arrive at (and can certainly not force) a consensus ... you're already bordering on Flame.War territory by bringing it up. What's your own comfort level? Do you need the plush luxury of an IDE? Do you prefer the command line, aided perhaps by "visualization tools" (they abound, many-to-one for each LayoutManager), or are you the Luddite, fly by the seat of your pants type, and do it all in your text editor? The answer, Thomas, is "whatever works for you." Matisse, Degas, Renoir (I'm making these up!), ..., or jUst gOod oLd jEdit. You make the call, and everyone else will go their own way. Java GUI development is like herding cats. A nice idea, a disaster in practice. But, that's just my own USD 0.02. Tom. *And*, whenever possible, please do NOT indulge me to CROSS-Post any issues we are already aware of! _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Hello Tom Maynard,
1.) thanks for your reply. 2.) I'm working since year's to ADD some new vebrs to the NetRexx Language. As many of you (might) still know, my original intention was to release all of that under the new *brand name* Rey (Rexx for Java) I also have to admit that 'Rex' in german is a King, and 'Rey'' is a so called *Kaiser* ... I simply did find, that after 'rex' , 'rey' should appear as the next step. I have to admit, that I did underestimate all the work involved... :-( For the time beeing, I'm trying to complete the *Pure NetRexx' version of all of my stuff, including Rexx2Nrx, DB-123, and also PP. I will *not*, however, have *any interest* to start any Wars. My persoinal opinion is and has always been, that we would need : ..... see you later, all I did produce o this Group and at KENAI such a lot of potental Improvementa to ehe NetRexx Language, which have beendeither irnored *nor impeened in mnetRexx, tha*t II'M getting tired to *fight* Sorry, Thomas. ============================================================================================ Am 17.01.2012 00:50, schrieb Tom Maynard: On 1/16/2012 5:02 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: --
Thomas Schneider (Founder of www.thsitc.com) Member of the Rexx Languge Asscociation (www.rexxla.org) Member of the NetRexx Developer's Team (www.netrexx.org) _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
Thomas Schneider, Vienna, Austria (Europe) :-)
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