NetRexx Installer Issues

[Tom Maynard]

Whew!  I have coalesced all the various commentary into a single (and rambling) document, and I have extracted at a very high level the following issues (in no particular order):

* Should NetRexx be self-contained?  That is, should the NetRexx deliverable include a compiler, obviating the need for Oracle's javac (or anyone else's) compiler?

* Should the NetRexx installer be platform independent?  That is, should the installation process avoid the vagaries of Win/Lin/Mac and be a "mostly pure" Java task?

* Should there be consideration (and specific installers) for Beginners (Eclipse, JEdit) and for Power Users (JAR delivery only)?

There are many more lower-level topics, but it would seem that these bigger issues need to be addressed before focusing on the "million little details."  I have not considered the "emit byte code" versus "emit Java source code" topic, especially since that didn't seem (to me) to be an installation-specific issue.

And, if I have have overlooked (or de-emphasized) your favorite installation hot-button, please feel free to call me out on it!  This is the time to have that conversation.

After a bit of clean-up and reformatting, I would like to make my "rambling document" generally available.  It will be just a flat text file, but where should it go?

Tom.

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[Fernando Cassia-2]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 14:42, Tom Maynard <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It will be just a flat text file, but where should it go?

Google Docs.

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[Tom Maynard]

On 9/26/2011 1:13 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 14:42, Tom Maynard<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> It will be just a flat text file, but where should it go?
> Google Docs.
>
>
Okay.  Here it is:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FybxAua5YCnEPTnDMiQU-LyECBWG3cXQRp9zne6U-q4/edit?hl=en_US

That seems likely to break ... another version: http://goo.gl/9lGLs




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[Fernando Cassia-2]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 15:58, Tom Maynard <[hidden email]> wrote:
> That seems likely to break ... another version: http://goo.gl/9lGLs

Looks great, Thanks Tom for the hard work!.
Btw. You might want to give Kermit or someone else also edit rights,
perhaps? (I can't / wont get into that, sorry can't help with this
right now).

FC

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[ThSITC]

OK!

Tom Maynard, Fernando Cassia, Rony, Rene Vincent Jansen:

I *did* now *read* the referenced URL' (referenced below), id even PRINT
them out, and did re-read them 3 times before answering:

*CAN We please open grooup ibm-netrexx*   *for simple attachments*?

Time seems to be arised!

Massa Thomas.

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Am 26.09.2011 20:58, schrieb Tom Maynard:

> On 9/26/2011 1:13 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 14:42, Tom Maynard<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>> It will be just a flat text file, but where should it go?
>> Google Docs.
>>
>>
> Okay.  Here it is:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FybxAua5YCnEPTnDMiQU-LyECBWG3cXQRp9zne6U-q4/edit?hl=en_US
>
> That seems likely to break ... another version: http://goo.gl/9lGLs
>
>
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[alansam]

As has been stated over and over again: there is absolutely no reason to allow for the attachment of files to this list!  Moreover; this thread demonstrates that there is no justification for doing so, as a document (http://goo.gl/9lGLs) can be posted to Google Docs. (or any number of other free document hosting services) and simply referenced within any note via a hyperlink. That's the whole point of the World Wide Web after all; linking relevant documents together.  Denying the ability to attach files has the added benefit of protecting the members of this list from the exposure to viruses and other malware which often accompany said attachments.

A.

On 26 September 2011 13:46, Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]> wrote:

OK!

Tom Maynard, Fernando Cassia, Rony, Rene Vincent Jansen:

I *did* now *read* the referenced URL' (referenced below), id even PRINT them out, and did re-read them 3 times before answering:

*CAN We please open grooup ibm-netrexx*   *for simple attachments*?

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[Fernando Cassia-2]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 18:54, Alan Sampson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  Denying the ability to attach files has the added benefit of protecting the
> members of this list from the exposure to viruses and other malware which
> often accompany said attachments.

But we lose the right to see a 46 MB 1200-dpi PDF file full of
asterisks about a certain program parser.
;)

FC

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[alansam]

But we lose the right to see a 46 MB 1200-dpi PDF file full of
asterisks about a certain program parser.
;)

FC

 

Exacly!

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[Tom Maynard]

Alan Sampson <[hidden email]> wrote:

>> a...PDF file full of
>> asterisks
>>
>Exacly!

I'm sure it would only be half asterisks.

Tom.


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[ThSITC]

Hello Mr. Alan Sampson:

1.) What is your birthday ? (How old are you)
2.) which newsgroups are you reading, and what are the rules there?

Kind regards,
Massa Thomas.
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Am 26.09.2011 23:54, schrieb Alan Sampson:

As has been stated over and over again: there is absolutely no reason to allow for the attachment of files to this list!  Moreover; this thread demonstrates that there is no justification for doing so, as a document (http://goo.gl/9lGLs) can be posted to Google Docs. (or any number of other free document hosting services) and simply referenced within any note via a hyperlink. That's the whole point of the World Wide Web after all; linking relevant documents together.  Denying the ability to attach files has the added benefit of protecting the members of this list from the exposure to viruses and other malware which often accompany said attachments.

A.

On 26 September 2011 13:46, Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]> wrote:

OK!

Tom Maynard, Fernando Cassia, Rony, Rene Vincent Jansen:

I *did* now *read* the referenced URL' (referenced below), id even PRINT them out, and did re-read them 3 times before answering:

*CAN We please open grooup ibm-netrexx*   *for simple attachments*?

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[ThSITC]

Hello Fernando,

*and all*

I'm now going to deploy my PP Parser (with the help of David Requena)
very soon... :-)

... still busy, sorry
Thomas Schneider.
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Am 27.09.2011 00:07, schrieb Fernando Cassia:

> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 18:54, Alan Sampson<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>   Denying the ability to attach files has the added benefit of protecting the
>> members of this list from the exposure to viruses and other malware which
>> often accompany said attachments.
> But we lose the right to see a 46 MB 1200-dpi PDF file full of
> asterisks about a certain program parser.
> ;)
>
> FC
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[ThSITC]

Writing a software with only ASTERISKS is meaningless (for me)

Whilst I did LOVE ASTERIX, asnd OBELIX, when I have been young,
I o nowadays concentrate on:

Automated Computer Languse Trasnlatations.

I.e.

PL/I to COBOL, and or Java
COBOL to PL/I, Net>Rexx, or Java

etc etc

My PP Projetc is *my last attempt* to implement a UNIVERSAL Compiler,
knwon as UNCOL, when I did study mathematics decades ago, and the then
said story was:  INFEASABLE !

I'm, currently, trying to proove: FEASABLE!

We all will see :-)
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Am 27.09.2011 01:13, schrieb Tom Maynard:

> Alan Sampson<[hidden email]>  wrote:
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>>> a...PDF file full of
>>> asterisks
>>>
>> Exacly!
> I'm sure it would only be half asterisks.
>
> Tom.
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