NetRexx class Rexx vs. Java class String BUILTIN methods.
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After printing out the Java Definition of class STRING (yes, ALAN; I did
KILL the woods again) it appears that there are numerous methods there in Java class STRING, which are partly duplicated (with another name, some-times, as for instance NetRexx 'substr' vs. Java 'substring') in class NetRexx class Rexx. I personally *do think* about two *issues*: a) changing a NetRexx program from OPTION NOBINARY (the default) *to OPTION BINARY* (or even a new OPTION JAVA) shall make use as much as possible of the already existing method's there in the Java classes. b) what I'm proposing is: b1) let us use the NetRexx definition of the functios/methods, as specified in nrl3.pdf b2) *implement* in NetRexxC, that the proper NetRexx methods are translated to the proper Java methods, when options BINARY (or the new proposed options Java) is used. This might greatly improve the performance of *symbol orriented programs*, when using both: c) NetRexxx SYNTAX d) OPTIONS BINARY Sincerely, Thomas Schneider. PS: there seems to be a GREAT OVERLAP in methods available in pure Java *and* NetRexx. Hence, what is the advice of the ARB: -- to use NetRexx syntax and semantics (for history) -- to use Java names and semantic (for utmost efficiency) My personal proposal woul be that the NetRexxC Translator might and should be changed to simply change the *wording* of the used functions (methods), in the NetRexxC GENERATION pass, when OPTION BINARY is used, to get utmost performance wheneved possible.... What do you think? Hope I didn't interrupr you too much !! ;-) Thomas. -- Thomas Schneider (Founder of www.thsitc.com) Member of the Rexx Languge Asscociation (www.rexxla.org) Member of the NetRexx Developer's Team (www.netrexx.org) _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
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On 2 November 2011 08:03, Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]> wrote: There is absolutely no need to change anything. The NetRexx methods work on objects of type Rexx (and by inference String too). Java's String methods ONLY work on objects of type String. The classes are complimentary not mutually exclusive.After printing out the Java Definition of class STRING (yes, ALAN; I did KILL the woods again) What does this have to do with me? I never mentioned anything about your careless disregard for the planet until now!
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Alan, hasn't it *been you* who wrote to me that *I shall not kill
the woods (just read it) ??
(on another list) !! When I'm wrong ... Sorry. Then I did mix the messages (too many, at the minute, I do have to admit ... :-() Will lookup my archives... Thomas Schneider.I ========================================================================== Am 02.11.2011 17:10, schrieb Alan Sampson:
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What's the latest on JavaBean's ide? Looks like it is well supported, has a lot of followers and actually works well - to generate java code. Can I netrexxify the code generated and work on that source to make a netrexx gui? I started trying to code my own layout management routines and got hopelessly lost. Isn't there lot's of stuff being done with netrexx on a gui?? Kenneth Klein _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Ken:
On 02.11.2011 20:14, [hidden email] wrote: What's the latest on JavaBean's ide? Looks like it is well supported, has a lot of followers and actually works well - to generate java code. Can I netrexxify the code generated and work on that source to make a netrexx gui? I started trying to code my own layout management routines and got hopelessly lost. Isn't there lot's of stuff being done with netrexx on a gui??although the work is related to BSF4ooRexx it nevertheless may be interesting to learn about the Java IDE's the student, Sebastion Margiol, explored and experiment with NetRexx instead. HTH, ---rony _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Oops, sorry, too much stress. Not only bad English, but even missing
out on the URL!
:-(( Here's the URL: <http://wi.wu.ac.at:8002/rgf/diplomarbeiten/index.htm#sem_201106a>. ---rony P.S.: Taking a break or two ... On 02.11.2011 20:35, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: Ken: _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Kenneth:
I'm watching those group's now for 1 1/2 years. I originally did want to write a plugin, for NetBeans NetRexx, but gave this up as I do have to much other thingsa in my queue ... Sorry to say that: I'm wathcing them; they are obvioulsy doing a great work! *But*; I'm surely, at the minute, the one to write the plugin, as I daid, due to other priorities and too heavy workload (which I did load on myself). Thomas. ============================================================================= m 02.11.2011 20:14, schrieb [hidden email]
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Kenneth,
David Requena is well versed in NetBeans and Java GUI. I think he must be busy just now, but search the archive for Requena/NetBeans, to get a feeling for his thinking. If I remember correctly he has announced his intention of writing a tutorial on producing a GUI with the help of NetBeans. I'm looking forward to it myself. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:14 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
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A tutorial would be great. I'm stuck between an applet example from Creating Java Applications Using NetRexx using GridBagLayout and an application generated with the NetBeans IDD. So far it's been all dead-ends and confusion.
Kenneth, David Requena is well versed in NetBeans and Java GUI. I think he must be busy just now, but search the archive for Requena/NetBeans, to get a feeling for his thinking. If I remember correctly he has announced his intention of writing a tutorial on producing a GUI with the help of NetBeans. I'm looking forward to it myself. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:14 PM, <kenneth.klein@...> wrote: What's the latest on JavaBean's ide? Looks like it is well supported, has a lot of followers and actually works well - to generate java code. Can I netrexxify the code generated and work on that source to make a netrexx gui? I started trying to code my own layout management routines and got hopelessly lost. Isn't there lot's of stuff being done with netrexx on a gui?? Kenneth Klein _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Kenneth,
I think David advocated using NetBeans for GUI layout. See http://netbeans.org/features/java/swing.html He also sketched how NetRexx was brought into the picture, but I don't remember any details. You might try searching his past posts. George On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:01 PM, George Hovey <[hidden email]> wrote: Kenneth, _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Kenneth,
when I did this regularly, I always just kept the java source and called netrexx-generated classes from their event handlers. This enables iterative development on gui and functionality, which would be harder if netbeans could not parse back its source. best regards, René. On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:21:48 -0400, George Hovey wrote: > Kenneth, > I think David advocated using NetBeans for GUI layout. > See http://netbeans.org/features/java/swing.html [4] > He also sketched how NetRexx was brought into the picture, but I > don't remember any details. You might try searching his past posts. > George > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:01 PM, George Hovey wrote: > >> Kenneth, >> David Requena is well versed in NetBeans and Java GUI. I think he >> must be busy just now, but search the archive for Requena/NetBeans, >> to get a feeling for his thinking. If I remember correctly he has >> announced his intention of writing a tutorial on producing a GUI >> with the help of NetBeans. I'm looking forward to it myself. >> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:14 PM, wrote: >> >>> What's the latest on JavaBean's ide? Looks like it is well >>> supported, has a lot of followers and actually works well - to >>> generate java code. Can I netrexxify the code generated and work >>> on that source to make a netrexx gui? I started trying to code my >>> own layout management routines and got hopelessly lost. Isn't >>> there lot's of stuff being done with netrexx on a gui?? >>> >>> Kenneth Klein >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >>> [hidden email] [1] >>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ [2] > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] mailto:[hidden email] > [2] http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > [3] mailto:[hidden email] > [4] http://netbeans.org/features/java/swing.html > [5] mailto:[hidden email] _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Hi George, thanks for *including the reference URL!
I do have some 2 (too ancient) versions installed on my desk, but never did find the time to deeply look into them, due to other work in progress ... :-) By the way, according to Mr. Presidents (Rene Vincent Jansen's mail on another list (where ATTACHED Files are supported) I did decide to *not bother* you too much with any further ideas, until I did roll out my recent work (2001 thru 2011), including the updated version of Rexx2Nrx, etc. I'm so sorry when I did interrupt you all to much with my too many e-mails. I'll try my best to *not send mails* to any *Rexx Family of Languages* group, until I did finish (and deploy) my personal implementation(s) of all the issues involved (as I see them (personally)). Kind greetings from Vienna, Austria (as always) Thomas. ========================================================================== . Am 03.11.2011 16:21, schrieb George Hovey: Kenneth, --
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