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Re: [RexxLA] Rexx in job descriptions

ThSITC
Anyway, Chip, to be frank ...

1.) You have been one very well accepted TRAINER of any&all Dialects of
the Rexx Family of Language(s),
there in the US, at least ...
2.) You *did* contribute a *lot*, as acting as the RexxLA Past President!
3.) You *did* contribute, *a Lot*, again in defining the REXX ANSII
Standard (ANSI X3J18-199X),
*on my desk, since years*

Only problem *is* (STILL NOW) !!!

It's a FAMILY of always *DIVERGING DIALECTS*!

Full stop, from my side, of course, only ..

When You are trying to *promote* Rexx as a LANGUAGE ...

You are *WRONG*!

It's an *excellent concept*, designed, all the Years, and maintained, by
MFC, ...
and has always been, and is and has been *excellent*,

*but*

Nobody does *need* a Family of Languages to *talk with his sister*, *or*
brother.

When Brothers, Sisters, and *CHILDS* don't talk the same *Language*,

*How*, the Hell, Shall they talk with their GRAND-PARENTS, *or*
GRAND-CHILDS???

BSF4ooRexx, from my friend here in Austria, Prof. Rony Flatscher, does of
course fill this (never existing) GAP!

Nobody, the hell, wants to learn oorexx, BSF4ooRexx, and the all Java
Classes ,---
-- NOR:
-- the other way around (using NetRexx, etc, ...)

And then shall get a message that this is a FAMILY!

It is, in fact, unfortunaty * FAMILY* of CHILDS *not beeing able* to
start to COERCE (*or whatever is this DAMNED ENGLISH WORD)

Going with each release *more far and more far way*, from each other ...

*is not uch a good idea*

I do think, at least ...

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FARE WELL (Danish: See you, maybe, again)
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Cracy Uncle Thomas, from Vienna, Austria, Europe (*NO KANGOOROOHS*,
still .... ;-) ;-) ;-)


Am 26.01.2013 05:14, schrieb Chip Davis:

> I interpret the flowchart as specifying the requisite skills for an
> IBM Systems Engineer.  If absolutely new to the job, take the first
> six classes, then return to "C" and continue.
>
> At that point, the student won't be a totally ab initio sysprog, but
> still fairly inexperienced.  Rexx is the next step, although I would
> not have made it optional.  OTOH, there is no mentions of Pipelines
> anywhere.
>
> Another reason I never wanted to be a OS sys-janitor.  All the sweet
> tools were over on VM.
>
> -Chip-
>
> On 1/25/2013 18:39 Les Koehler said:
>> Chip,
>>
>> I don't see it in the Yes path from the Yes exit of the first decision
>> block.
>>
>> Les
>>
>> On 1/25/2013 12:25 PM, Chip Davis wrote:
>>> On 1/25/2013 09:06 Mike Cowlishaw said:
>>>>> I would like to sound out your opinions: the perceived and
>>>>> relative popularity of programming languages is mostly
>>>>> measured using either the number of web hits in search
>>>>> engines, or the number of job postings on popular boards, and
>>>>> less often in existing lines of code measurements, number of
>>>>> applications or scientific publications. I would like to
>>>>> focus on the job postings: while some jobs have Rexx
>>>>> explicitly stated in the requirements, in my experience any
>>>>> system level job on TSO or VM implicitly assumes that you
>>>>> know Rexx. Is there any empirical evidence for my view here?
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>> Always hard to pin these sorts of things down.  One start might be to find ads
>>>> for system level jobs on TSO or VM that do not mention Rexx where such knowledge
>>>> would 'obviously' be required.
>>>>
>>>> Another reason this measure might be suspect is that there is a relatively small
>>>> turnover in mainframe jobs -- programmers in these don't hop from job to job as
>>>> often as people working in volatile startups and other small companies.  Hence
>>>> probably _far_ fewer job adverts per capita, regardless of whether then mention
>>>> Rexx (or PL/I or COBOL, etc.).
>>> How about the fact that IBM considers Rexx training a fundamental
>>> skill set for new z/OS systems staff:
>>>
>>> http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/zz/en?pageType=page&c=a0000630
>>>
>>> -Chip-
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