Re: raspberry Pi, Nah - beaglebone black
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Well, I went with a BBB after all. After preparing a list of what I would need to get started with a R-Pi, I realized the BBB would be cheaper. Now I am awash in documentation on the HW and pins and GPIO and how to operate all that neat stuff. Anybody got any good links especially if Netrexx related? From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Tom Maynard On 5/31/2013 12:24 PM, Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC) wrote:
You should definitely wait for a more definitive response -- I don't actually own a RasPi -- but if you can load the Python code into
Jython, and then save the resulting class files, you could simply call them from NetRexx just like any other standalone class (or library). No conversion would be required at all ... another benefit of running on the JVM. _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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On 6/4/2013 2:51 PM, Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC) wrote:
There are really only two links you need:
I have tried the OpenJDK 6 and it works, but the Oracle distro is roughly 3X faster in my very informal, and totally unscientific testing with SciMark 2.0. The OpenJDK comes with the ZeroVM which is assembler-free and thus pays a performance price in exchange for portability. And, depending on your
intentions, you don't really need any hardware to get started.
Connect the included USB cable (or any smartphone charger
cable), and use It's also reasonably important (altho' not vital) to upgrade the OS on the board. The instructions are all in the "Getting Started" info (also included). But the most important thing of all, and the real reason for any of this is to Have Fun! _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
Re: raspberry Pi, Nah - beaglebone black
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On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Tom Maynard <[hidden email]> wrote:
> he OpenJDK comes with the ZeroVM which is assembler-free and thus pays a > performance price in exchange for portability. There are OpenJDK builds with ARM JIT... Although I don't have the link at the top of my head right now.... Probably something linked from here http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3335 FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
Re: raspberry Pi, Nah - beaglebone black
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On 6/4/2013 4:17 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: There are OpenJDK builds with ARM JIT... Okay, I will look a bit harder ... although I don't have a problem with the Oracle build (some folks do). A bit of comparison testing: Oracle build first and the OpenJDK build... _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Sorry, as always, to *INTERRUPT* You
again:
Shall *anyBody*, of my *friends* here, be *able to *BUY ME* a Raspeberriy Pi, there in the US, and send it to me by any Services, available, there ? When Yes. pLEASE +DO SEND ME A private mail + to: [hidden email] indicating: 1.) The Costs of SALE THERE (in $) 2.) The costs of Transport (for instancde, by upc) 3.) and, the account number of Yours *I* shall have to transfer the MONEY in advance. ***NO PAYPAL***, ***NO CREDIT CARDSÜ*; ***CASH TRansfer*** either by ACCOUNT (*or* WESTERN UNION, of Course) .... !!! Thomas Schneider. ============================================================= Am 04.06.2013 23:36, schrieb Tom Maynard:
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Re: raspberry Pi, Nah - beaglebone black
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On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Thomas Schneider
<[hidden email]> wrote: > Sorry, as always, to *INTERRUPT* You again: > > Shall *anyBody*, of my *friends* here, be *able to *BUY ME* a Raspeberriy > Pi, there in the US, and send it to me by any Services, available, there ? > > When Yes. > > pLEASE +DO SEND ME A private mail + to: http://www.technik-welt.at/en/raspberry-pi FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Hi Fernando, and *all*:
Due to *my current STATE* of beeing handled like a 5 Year old Child, who I am, mentally, maybe, *by AUSTRIAN LAWS*, having a *CURATOR*, since nearly 2 Years now, I am: *Totally unable to ACT (Financially, at least) here from Austria! Capisci? Comprendi? Do You Understand, all, please ... ;-) ;-) ;-) I *DO Have some 4000 Euro, *plus*, on my PENSION ACCOUNT, *I* currently have to *stay ALIVE* with 50 Euro's by week, *which is not too much*! Hence, I'm currently in *active Progress* to *RELOCATE* both my *own BODY*, *my ancient HEAD*, as well, and *The rest of my tiny small BRAIN* ... *to* AFRICA, specifically The Gambia, namely BANJUL, to get out of this (for me, atr least) NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE (mentally) Situation and, shall then *continue* to work as usual (when possible) *NOT FROM Austria*, ... *BUT* From somewhere Elsewhere! ;-) ;-) ;-) Sorry *to bother You all* with those, *my VERY personal* Problems, as well as *urgently to be resolved* issues (at least, for me ...) Anyway, all the best greeting from here (Still Austria), which is, as well,m currenlty *pained* by too much RAIN, the past weeks, thus .... ... SO MANY Families here in Austria do have, this Minute, much much *more* Problems in *Their Lives* .... THAN I do Have, at al! Massa ThoMassa (relocatin to AFRICA, now ;-) ;-)( ========================================================== PS: NeedLess to Say, from my Side, *I do hope, at least*, that *I* shall Proceed to *Finish* my *RexxForm* project, as most of the work is DONE, but, at the minute, I am *simply FIGHTING to be able to SURVIVE*, when possible at all ! Have a nice week, all, anyway ... Thomas. ============================================================= Am 05.06.2013 06:22, schrieb Fernando Cassia: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Thomas Schneider > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Sorry, as always, to *INTERRUPT* You again: >> >> Shall *anyBody*, of my *friends* here, be *able to *BUY ME* a Raspeberriy >> Pi, there in the US, and send it to me by any Services, available, there ? >> >> When Yes. >> >> pLEASE +DO SEND ME A private mail + to: > http://www.technik-welt.at/en/raspberry-pi > > FC > _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
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Thanks for the tip about SciMark. I ran it on my workstation and an LPAR: SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 846.2369040913194 FFT (1024): 679.2214123380088 SOR (100x100): 1037.3916837254487 Monte Carlo : 145.21798975446615 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 997.5037972113917 LU (100x100): 1371.8496374272816 java.vendor: Oracle Corporation java.version: 1.7.0_07 os.arch: x86 os.name: Windows 7 os.version: 6.1 java version "1.7.0_07" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_07-b11) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 23.3-b01, mixed mode, sharing) SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 16.524669167315665 FFT (1024): 14.99106646186975 SOR (100x100): 42.692195592235784 Monte Carlo : 6.775935838981556 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 7.840735103265732 LU (100x100): 10.323412840225503 java.vendor: IBM Corporation java.version: 1.5.0 os.arch: s390x os.name: z/OS os.version: 01.12.00 Looks like the mainframe is really slow. Or is it the difference in the version of Java? Considering I would need a “Cobbler” on the Pi to do any breadboarding and I will have to have a RTC, the BBB becomes cheaper. From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Tom Maynard On 6/4/2013 4:17 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Okay, I will look a bit harder ... although I don't have a problem with the Oracle build (some folks do). A bit of comparison testing: Oracle build first
and the OpenJDK build...
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Are you checking java on the mainframe under OMVS (USS ) ? If so, that’s why. It’s also why people are moving to z/linux to run their java. USS was never
very good performance wise but it did provide a place to run java on the mainframe. Do you have zapp processors ? From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC) Thanks for the tip about SciMark. I ran it on my workstation and an LPAR: SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 846.2369040913194 FFT (1024): 679.2214123380088 SOR (100x100): 1037.3916837254487 Monte Carlo : 145.21798975446615 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 997.5037972113917 LU (100x100): 1371.8496374272816 java.vendor: Oracle Corporation java.version: 1.7.0_07 os.arch: x86 os.name: Windows 7 os.version: 6.1 java version "1.7.0_07" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_07-b11) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 23.3-b01, mixed mode, sharing) SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 16.524669167315665 FFT (1024): 14.99106646186975 SOR (100x100): 42.692195592235784 Monte Carlo : 6.775935838981556 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 7.840735103265732 LU (100x100): 10.323412840225503 java.vendor: IBM Corporation java.version: 1.5.0 os.arch: s390x os.name: z/OS os.version: 01.12.00 Looks like the mainframe is really slow. Or is it the difference in the version of Java? Considering I would need a “Cobbler” on the Pi to do any breadboarding and I will have to have a RTC, the BBB becomes cheaper. From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Tom Maynard On 6/4/2013 4:17 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Okay, I will look a bit harder ... although I don't have a problem with the Oracle build (some folks do). A bit of comparison testing: Oracle build first
and the OpenJDK build...
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Java Benchmark (was Re: raspberry Pi, Nah - beaglebone black)
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On 6/5/2013 9:06 AM, Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC) wrote: Thanks for the tip about SciMark. I ran it on my workstation and an LPAR Remember the religious wars that continue to rage about benchmarking in general, and any individual benchmark in particular. While not on the same scale as Emacs vs Vim, or Java vs CLR, they persist. "Benchmarks don't
measure anything." (To put it as simply as possible) The SciMark especially has a very tight focus: numerical calculations of the abstruse kind ... FFT, Monte Carlo, etc. It comes from the NIST (where they wind the atomic clock every day). Don't get fixated on bark, while most people see trees, and everybody else is admiring the forest. Cross-platform comparisons are especially troublesome. That's an apple and an orange ... from different planets! I ran my "comparison" on the same hardware, changing only the JVM. And even I wince whenever I say -- especially out loud -- that one was "better" or "faster" than the other. I doubt that I'll ever do any of those calculations in anything I ever write anywhere ... so what have I actually measured? Elapsed time, perhaps ... and I didn't even measure it! _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
Re: Java Benchmark (was Re: raspberry Pi, Nah - beaglebone black)
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MacBook Pro Intel OSX: ~ $java -cp scimark2lib.jar jnt.scimark2.commandline SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 750.4149150793619 FFT (1024): 446.3256508201623 SOR (100x100): 883.924288528297 Monte Carlo : 385.1297642983153 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 709.8402232573994 LU (100x100): 1326.8546484926358 java.vendor: Apple Inc. java.version: 1.6.0_45 os.arch: x86_64 os.name: Mac OS X os.version: 10.7.5 ~ $ Intel Linux server: ts00086@rpndvm01 ~ $ java -cp scimark2lib.jar jnt.scimark2.commandline SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 862.2458494993604 FFT (1024): 666.2492817676415 SOR (100x100): 908.9410905754966 Monte Carlo : 351.8157955095514 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 366.7375610992658 LU (100x100): 2017.4855185448462 java.vendor: IBM Corporation java.version: 1.6.0 os.arch: x86 os.name: Linux os.version: 2.6.18-348.3.1.el5 ts00086@rpndvm01 ~ $ IBM z9 Linux: ts00086@syspzl02 ~ $ java -cp scimark2lib.jar jnt.scimark2.commandline SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 19.090751446264456 FFT (1024): 10.967308310066974 SOR (100x100): 34.959269085295716 Monte Carlo : 4.25385800599879 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 17.949166886940912 LU (100x100): 27.324154943019888 java.vendor: Free Software Foundation, Inc. java.version: 1.4.2 os.arch: s390x os.name: Linux os.version: 2.6.18-348.3.1.el5 ts00086@syspzl02 ~ $ Raspberry Pi Debian Linux hard-float: pi@rpural ~> java -cp scimark2lib.jar jnt.scimark2.commandline SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 2.4178347932038937 FFT (1024): 1.4909058520938838 SOR (100x100): 6.089941446844233 Monte Carlo : 0.6376260194918966 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 2.367082638542902 LU (100x100): 1.5036180090465516 java.vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc. java.version: 1.6.0_27 os.arch: arm os.name: Linux os.version: 3.6.11+ pi@rpural ~> -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation .~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW /V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ ----- ^^-^^ "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." On 6/5/13 10:28 AM, "Tom Maynard" <tom@...> wrote:
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*JUST ***ONE SMALL COMMENT*** from me,
about *RELIGIOUS WARS*:
1.) Read RICHARD DAWKINS (a british BIO-Genetiker, in specifically AUTHOR of --- Die Schöpfungs-Lüge (German Version) --- Der Gottes-Wahn (German Version) 2.) *Any*, and *ALL* (or,k at least, *nearly ALL* WARS on this, *Our COMMON Earth*, have and *are created* by either: --- Different Nationality --- Different Ideologoloty --- Different Religions (as, for Instance: Yewish, Christian, Islamic, etc etc etc) --- *or* any other reasons to ... *what* ???? 3.) *When WE Human Beeings* shall *not be able* to *STOP* .... *ANY AND ALL WARS* instantly, then: There shall be no *longer* HUMAN BEEINGS on tgis, *our COMMON Earth* :-( :-( :-( *WE SHALL KILL ***OUR NEIGHBOURS*** ... Massa ThoMassa ;-) ;-) ;-.) ======================================================== Am 05.06.2013 17:28, schrieb Tom Maynard:
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No zaps or zips in this shop. From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Measel, Mike Are you checking java on the mainframe under OMVS (USS ) ? If so, that’s why. It’s also why people are moving to z/linux to run their java. USS was never
very good performance wise but it did provide a place to run java on the mainframe. Do you have zapp processors ? From:
[hidden email] [[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC) Thanks for the tip about SciMark. I ran it on my workstation and an LPAR: SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 846.2369040913194 FFT (1024): 679.2214123380088 SOR (100x100): 1037.3916837254487 Monte Carlo : 145.21798975446615 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 997.5037972113917 LU (100x100): 1371.8496374272816 java.vendor: Oracle Corporation java.version: 1.7.0_07 os.arch: x86 os.name: Windows 7 os.version: 6.1 java version "1.7.0_07" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_07-b11) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 23.3-b01, mixed mode, sharing) SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 16.524669167315665 FFT (1024): 14.99106646186975 SOR (100x100): 42.692195592235784 Monte Carlo : 6.775935838981556 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 7.840735103265732 LU (100x100): 10.323412840225503 java.vendor: IBM Corporation java.version: 1.5.0 os.arch: s390x os.name: z/OS os.version: 01.12.00 Looks like the mainframe is really slow. Or is it the difference in the version of Java? Considering I would need a “Cobbler” on the Pi to do any breadboarding and I will have to have a RTC, the BBB becomes cheaper. From:
[hidden email] [[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Tom Maynard On 6/4/2013 4:17 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Okay, I will look a bit harder ... although I don't have a problem with the Oracle build (some folks do). A bit of comparison testing: Oracle build first
and the OpenJDK build...
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If you guys are going to do much with java applications on Z, you may want to investigate adding a zapp. One of IBM’s best values in my opinion.
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On Behalf Of Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC) No zaps or zips in this shop. From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Measel, Mike Are you checking java on the mainframe under OMVS (USS ) ? If so, that’s why. It’s also why people are moving to z/linux to run their java. USS was never
very good performance wise but it did provide a place to run java on the mainframe. Do you have zapp processors ? From:
[hidden email] [[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC) Thanks for the tip about SciMark. I ran it on my workstation and an LPAR: SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 846.2369040913194 FFT (1024): 679.2214123380088 SOR (100x100): 1037.3916837254487 Monte Carlo : 145.21798975446615 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 997.5037972113917 LU (100x100): 1371.8496374272816 java.vendor: Oracle Corporation java.version: 1.7.0_07 os.arch: x86 os.name: Windows 7 os.version: 6.1 java version "1.7.0_07" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_07-b11) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 23.3-b01, mixed mode, sharing) SciMark 2.0a Composite Score: 16.524669167315665 FFT (1024): 14.99106646186975 SOR (100x100): 42.692195592235784 Monte Carlo : 6.775935838981556 Sparse matmult (N=1000, nz=5000): 7.840735103265732 LU (100x100): 10.323412840225503 java.vendor: IBM Corporation java.version: 1.5.0 os.arch: s390x os.name: z/OS os.version: 01.12.00 Looks like the mainframe is really slow. Or is it the difference in the version of Java? Considering I would need a “Cobbler” on the Pi to do any breadboarding and I will have to have a RTC, the BBB becomes cheaper. From:
[hidden email] [[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Tom Maynard On 6/4/2013 4:17 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Okay, I will look a bit harder ... although I don't have a problem with the Oracle build (some folks do). A bit of comparison testing: Oracle build first
and the OpenJDK build...
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Good luck Thomas, I'm sure you'll do well. http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rma/lowres/rman14554l.jpg JOKE JOKE FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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