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kenner
Yes! The otherwise statement was getting executed all along and I just ignored it because I was getting the behavior I wanted. When that button was clicked the select statement was executed, the other buttons on preceding when statements were ignored, the when statement executed the method (but not because it was selected) and the otherwise statement just issued a statement. When I added a couple methods to the do block after the PbtRevertToZeros I realized they were not getting executed. When I changed the name of the button to something different than the name of the method, I got the results I expect (and in the fashion I intended).
 
method actionPerformed(evt=ActionEvent)  
    if Debug_Level > 3 then trace results
        select
                    when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros) then do
                                        ResetAllScores()
                                        DisplayScore(DaScore)
                                        ShowNextCard(Rand1)
                 end
                       when evt.getSource().equals(advanceThruDeck) then do
                                        ShowNextCard(Rand1)
                        end
                        when evt.getSource().equals(SaveExit) then do
                                        SaveScoreLine(DaScore)
                                        SaveTheRightWrongStatus()
                                        GuiClose()
                        end
                        when evt.getSource().equals(Submit_Check) then do
                                        Submit_Check(A_answer)
                        end
                 otherwise say "This should not have happened, darn." -- we don't expect anything else
              catch e3=IOException
                 say 'Exception caught:' e3 '\n  ' e3.getMessage()
        end
 
I suspect my Submit_Check button/method is not working llike I thought it was…
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kermit Kiser
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:50 PM
To: IBM Netrexx
Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] this make no sense
 
In the absence of option "strictargs", PbtRevertToZeros is equivalent to PbtRevertToZeros(). Hence the line:
 
"when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros) then do"
 
is calling method PbtRevertToZeros which returns a "4" which is unlikely to equal evt.getSource(), so the otherwise clause will be executed in that case.
 
-- Kermit
 
 
On 2/21/2013 9:37 AM, Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC) wrote:
> This program was working and then I made a few _small_ enhancements. The trace shows the select block getting executed, the PbtRevertToZeros when-clause getting selected and then the first method in that do-block is executed but then it directly falls thru to the otherwise statement. WTF?
>
> method actionPerformed(evt=ActionEvent) -- signals IOException
>      if Debug_Level > 3 then trace results
>         select
>                         when evt.getSource().equals(advanceThruDeck) then do
>                                         ShowNextCard(Rand1)
>                         end
>                         when evt.getSource() == SaveExit then do
>                                         SaveScoreLine(DaScore)
>                                         SaveTheRightWrongStatus()
>                                         catch e=RuntimeException
>                                             say 'I/O Exception.' e.getMessage()
>                                         GuiClose()
>                         end
>                         when evt.getSource().equals(Submit_Check) then do
>                                         Submit_Check(A_answer)
>                         end
>                         when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros) then do
>                                         PbtRevertToZeros()
>                                         if Debug_Level > 10 then trace results
>                                   reset()
>                                         DisplayScore(DaScore)
>                                         ShowNextCard(Rand1)
>                                                   end
>                 otherwise say "This should not have happened, darn." -- we don't expect anything else
>                  catch e3=IOException
>                      say 'Exception caught:' e3 '\n  ' e3.getMessage()
> --                catch e4 = NullPointerException
> --                    say 'Exception caught:' e4 '\n  ' e4.getMessage()
> --            finally say "Caught something." -- awkward when exception is not thrown
>         End
>
> 590 *=* method actionPerformed(evt=ActionEvent) -- signals IOException
>       >a> evt "java.awt.event.ActionEvent[ACTION_PERFORMED,cmd=Reset,when=1361472751949,modifiers=Button1] on javax.swing.JButton[,421,183,359x34,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.5,border=javax.swing.plaf.BorderUIResource$CompoundBorderUIResource@c7833c,flags=424,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,defaultIcon=,disabledIcon=,disabledSelectedIcon=,margin=javax.swing.plaf.InsetsUIResource[top=2,left=14,bottom=2,right=14],paintBorder=true,paintFocus=true,pressedIcon=,rolloverEnabled=true,rolloverIcon=,rolloverSelectedIcon=,selectedIcon=,text=Reset all scores,defaultCapable=true]"
>   592 *=*   select
>   593 *=*     when evt.getSource().equals(advanceThruDeck)
>       >>> "javax.swing.JButton[,4,183,409x34,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.5,border=javax.swing.plaf.BorderUIResource$CompoundBorderUIResource@c7833c,flags=424,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,defaultIcon=,disabledIcon=,disabledSelectedIcon=,margin=javax.swing.plaf.InsetsUIResource[top=2,left=14,bottom=2,right=14],paintBorder=true,paintFocus=true,pressedIcon=,rolloverEnabled=true,rolloverIcon=,rolloverSelectedIcon=,selectedIcon=,text=Display the next card.,defaultCapable=true]"
>       >>> "0"
>   596 *=*     when evt.getSource() == SaveExit
>       >>> "0"
>   603 *=*     when evt.getSource().equals(Submit_Check)
>       >>> "javax.swing.JButton[,4,139,409x34,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.5,border=javax.swing.plaf.BorderUIResource$CompoundBorderUIResource@c7833c,flags=424,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,defaultIcon=,disabledIcon=,disabledSelectedIcon=,margin=javax.swing.plaf.InsetsUIResource[top=2,left=14,bottom=2,right=14],paintBorder=true,paintFocus=true,pressedIcon=,rolloverEnabled=true,rolloverIcon=,rolloverSelectedIcon=,selectedIcon=,text=Submit and check your answer now.,defaultCapable=true]"
>       >>> "0"
>   606 *=*     when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros)
>   700 *=* method PbtRevertToZeros -- SIGNALS RuntimeException
>   702 *=*   rightAnswers = 0
>       >p> rightAnswers "0"
>   703 *=*   wrongAnswers = 0
>       >p> wrongAnswers "0"
>   704 *=*   pb.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value
>       >>> "0"
>   705 *=*   pb2.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value
>       >>> "0"
>   706 *=*   totalMinutes = 0
>       >p> totalMinutes "0"
>   707 *=*   if Debug_Level < 60
>       >>> "1"
>       *=*                       then
>       *=*                            trace off
>       >>> "4"
>       >>> "0"
>   613 *=*           otherwise
>       *=*                     say "This should not have happened, darn." -- we don't expect anything else
>       >>> "This should not have happened, darn."
> This should not have happened, darn.
>   619 *=*   end
>
> And this is the mehod that you can see actually get executed in the when-do-clause:
>
> method PbtRevertToZeros -- SIGNALS RuntimeException
>         if Debug_Level > 10 then trace results
>         rightAnswers = 0
>         wrongAnswers = 0
>         pb.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value
>         pb2.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value
>         totalMinutes = 0
>         if Debug_Level < 60 then trace off
>         loop label writeAns_doneTable qNumber = 1 to totalQCount
>                 myCard[qNumber,3] = 0
>                 myCard[qNumber,4] = 0
>         end writeAns_DoneTable
>         totalMinutes=0
>        return 4
>
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Re: this make no sense - but now it does

kenner

After patting myself on the back for having learned so much about netrexx and java over the last year or two and bam, reality hit me again.

I added strictargs to my options line and suddenly:

 

 

I guess I still have a lot to learn. So these methods are not getting the “type” they expect? But before strictargs they didn’t care? And the program was working?

 

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC)
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:46 AM
To: IBM Netrexx
Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] this make no sense - but now it does

 

Yes! The otherwise statement was getting executed all along and I just ignored it because I was getting the behavior I wanted. When that button was clicked the select statement was executed, the other buttons on preceding when statements were ignored, the when statement executed the method (but not because it was selected) and the otherwise statement just issued a statement. When I added a couple methods to the do block after the PbtRevertToZeros I realized they were not getting executed. When I changed the name of the button to something different than the name of the method, I got the results I expect (and in the fashion I intended).

 

method actionPerformed(evt=ActionEvent)  

    if Debug_Level > 3 then trace results

        select

                    when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros) then do

                                        ResetAllScores()

                                        DisplayScore(DaScore)

                                        ShowNextCard(Rand1)

                 end

                       when evt.getSource().equals(advanceThruDeck) then do

                                        ShowNextCard(Rand1)

                        end

                        when evt.getSource().equals(SaveExit) then do

                                        SaveScoreLine(DaScore)

                                        SaveTheRightWrongStatus()

                                        GuiClose()

                        end

                        when evt.getSource().equals(Submit_Check) then do

                                        Submit_Check(A_answer)

                        end

                 otherwise say "This should not have happened, darn." -- we don't expect anything else

              catch e3=IOException

                 say 'Exception caught:' e3 '\n  ' e3.getMessage()

        end

 

I suspect my Submit_Check button/method is not working llike I thought it was…

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kermit Kiser
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:50 PM
To: IBM Netrexx
Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] this make no sense

 

In the absence of option "strictargs", PbtRevertToZeros is equivalent to PbtRevertToZeros(). Hence the line:

 

"when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros) then do"

 

is calling method PbtRevertToZeros which returns a "4" which is unlikely to equal evt.getSource(), so the otherwise clause will be executed in that case.

 

-- Kermit

 

 

On 2/21/2013 9:37 AM, Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC) wrote:

> This program was working and then I made a few _small_ enhancements. The trace shows the select block getting executed, the PbtRevertToZeros when-clause getting selected and then the first method in that do-block is executed but then it directly falls thru to the otherwise statement. WTF?

> 

> method actionPerformed(evt=ActionEvent) -- signals IOException

>      if Debug_Level > 3 then trace results

>         select

>                         when evt.getSource().equals(advanceThruDeck) then do

>                                         ShowNextCard(Rand1)

>                         end

>                         when evt.getSource() == SaveExit then do

>                                         SaveScoreLine(DaScore)

>                                         SaveTheRightWrongStatus()

>                                         catch e=RuntimeException

>                                             say 'I/O Exception.' e.getMessage()

>                                         GuiClose()

>                         end

>                         when evt.getSource().equals(Submit_Check) then do

>                                         Submit_Check(A_answer)

>                         end

>                         when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros) then do

>                                         PbtRevertToZeros()

>                                         if Debug_Level > 10 then trace results

>                                   reset()

>                                         DisplayScore(DaScore)

>                                         ShowNextCard(Rand1)

>                                                   end

>                 otherwise say "This should not have happened, darn." -- we don't expect anything else

>                  catch e3=IOException

>                      say 'Exception caught:' e3 '\n  ' e3.getMessage()

> --                catch e4 = NullPointerException

> --                    say 'Exception caught:' e4 '\n  ' e4.getMessage()

> --            finally say "Caught something." -- awkward when exception is not thrown

>         End

> 

> 590 *=* method actionPerformed(evt=ActionEvent) -- signals IOException

>       >a> evt "java.awt.event.ActionEvent[ACTION_PERFORMED,cmd=Reset,when=1361472751949,modifiers=Button1] on javax.swing.JButton[,421,183,359x34,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.5,border=javax.swing.plaf.BorderUIResource$CompoundBorderUIResource@c7833c,flags=424,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,defaultIcon=,disabledIcon=,disabledSelectedIcon=,margin=javax.swing.plaf.InsetsUIResource[top=2,left=14,bottom=2,right=14],paintBorder=true,paintFocus=true,pressedIcon=,rolloverEnabled=true,rolloverIcon=,rolloverSelectedIcon=,selectedIcon=,text=Reset all scores,defaultCapable=true]"

>   592 *=*   select

>   593 *=*     when evt.getSource().equals(advanceThruDeck)

>       >>> "javax.swing.JButton[,4,183,409x34,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.5,border=javax.swing.plaf.BorderUIResource$CompoundBorderUIResource@c7833c,flags=424,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,defaultIcon=,disabledIcon=,disabledSelectedIcon=,margin=javax.swing.plaf.InsetsUIResource[top=2,left=14,bottom=2,right=14],paintBorder=true,paintFocus=true,pressedIcon=,rolloverEnabled=true,rolloverIcon=,rolloverSelectedIcon=,selectedIcon=,text=Display the next card.,defaultCapable=true]"

>       >>> "0"

>   596 *=*     when evt.getSource() == SaveExit

>       >>> "0"

>   603 *=*     when evt.getSource().equals(Submit_Check)

>       >>> "javax.swing.JButton[,4,139,409x34,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.5,border=javax.swing.plaf.BorderUIResource$CompoundBorderUIResource@c7833c,flags=424,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,defaultIcon=,disabledIcon=,disabledSelectedIcon=,margin=javax.swing.plaf.InsetsUIResource[top=2,left=14,bottom=2,right=14],paintBorder=true,paintFocus=true,pressedIcon=,rolloverEnabled=true,rolloverIcon=,rolloverSelectedIcon=,selectedIcon=,text=Submit and check your answer now.,defaultCapable=true]"

>       >>> "0"

>   606 *=*     when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros)

>   700 *=* method PbtRevertToZeros -- SIGNALS RuntimeException

>   702 *=*   rightAnswers = 0

>       >p> rightAnswers "0"

>   703 *=*   wrongAnswers = 0

>       >p> wrongAnswers "0"

>   704 *=*   pb.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value

>       >>> "0"

>   705 *=*   pb2.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value

>       >>> "0"

>   706 *=*   totalMinutes = 0

>       >p> totalMinutes "0"

>   707 *=*   if Debug_Level < 60

>       >>> "1"

>       *=*                       then

>       *=*                            trace off

>       >>> "4"

>       >>> "0"

>   613 *=*           otherwise

>       *=*                     say "This should not have happened, darn." -- we don't expect anything else

>       >>> "This should not have happened, darn."

> This should not have happened, darn.

>   619 *=*   end

> 

> And this is the mehod that you can see actually get executed in the when-do-clause:

> 

> method PbtRevertToZeros -- SIGNALS RuntimeException

>         if Debug_Level > 10 then trace results

>         rightAnswers = 0

>         wrongAnswers = 0

>         pb.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value

>         pb2.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value

>         totalMinutes = 0

>         if Debug_Level < 60 then trace off

>         loop label writeAns_doneTable qNumber = 1 to totalQCount

>                 myCard[qNumber,3] = 0

>                 myCard[qNumber,4] = 0

>         end writeAns_DoneTable

>         totalMinutes=0

>        return 4

> 

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kenner

Ha. I got it. With strictargs the methods all look like properties if you omit the ().

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC)
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:42 AM
To: IBM Netrexx
Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] this make no sense - but now it does

 

After patting myself on the back for having learned so much about netrexx and java over the last year or two and bam, reality hit me again.

I added strictargs to my options line and suddenly:

 

 

I guess I still have a lot to learn. So these methods are not getting the “type” they expect? But before strictargs they didn’t care? And the program was working?

 

 

From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC)
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:46 AM
To: IBM Netrexx
Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] this make no sense - but now it does

 

Yes! The otherwise statement was getting executed all along and I just ignored it because I was getting the behavior I wanted. When that button was clicked the select statement was executed, the other buttons on preceding when statements were ignored, the when statement executed the method (but not because it was selected) and the otherwise statement just issued a statement. When I added a couple methods to the do block after the PbtRevertToZeros I realized they were not getting executed. When I changed the name of the button to something different than the name of the method, I got the results I expect (and in the fashion I intended).

 

method actionPerformed(evt=ActionEvent)  

    if Debug_Level > 3 then trace results

        select

                    when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros) then do

                                        ResetAllScores()

                                        DisplayScore(DaScore)

                                        ShowNextCard(Rand1)

                 end

                       when evt.getSource().equals(advanceThruDeck) then do

                                        ShowNextCard(Rand1)

                        end

                        when evt.getSource().equals(SaveExit) then do

                                        SaveScoreLine(DaScore)

                                        SaveTheRightWrongStatus()

                                        GuiClose()

                        end

                        when evt.getSource().equals(Submit_Check) then do

                                        Submit_Check(A_answer)

                        end

                 otherwise say "This should not have happened, darn." -- we don't expect anything else

              catch e3=IOException

                 say 'Exception caught:' e3 '\n  ' e3.getMessage()

        end

 

I suspect my Submit_Check button/method is not working llike I thought it was…

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kermit Kiser
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:50 PM
To: IBM Netrexx
Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] this make no sense

 

In the absence of option "strictargs", PbtRevertToZeros is equivalent to PbtRevertToZeros(). Hence the line:

 

"when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros) then do"

 

is calling method PbtRevertToZeros which returns a "4" which is unlikely to equal evt.getSource(), so the otherwise clause will be executed in that case.

 

-- Kermit

 

 

On 2/21/2013 9:37 AM, Kenneth Klein (TEMA TPC) wrote:

> This program was working and then I made a few _small_ enhancements. The trace shows the select block getting executed, the PbtRevertToZeros when-clause getting selected and then the first method in that do-block is executed but then it directly falls thru to the otherwise statement. WTF?

> 

> method actionPerformed(evt=ActionEvent) -- signals IOException

>      if Debug_Level > 3 then trace results

>         select

>                         when evt.getSource().equals(advanceThruDeck) then do

>                                         ShowNextCard(Rand1)

>                         end

>                         when evt.getSource() == SaveExit then do

>                                         SaveScoreLine(DaScore)

>                                         SaveTheRightWrongStatus()

>                                         catch e=RuntimeException

>                                             say 'I/O Exception.' e.getMessage()

>                                         GuiClose()

>                         end

>                         when evt.getSource().equals(Submit_Check) then do

>                                         Submit_Check(A_answer)

>                         end

>                         when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros) then do

>                                         PbtRevertToZeros()

>                                         if Debug_Level > 10 then trace results

>                                   reset()

>                                         DisplayScore(DaScore)

>                                         ShowNextCard(Rand1)

>                                                   end

>                 otherwise say "This should not have happened, darn." -- we don't expect anything else

>                  catch e3=IOException

>                      say 'Exception caught:' e3 '\n  ' e3.getMessage()

> --                catch e4 = NullPointerException

> --                    say 'Exception caught:' e4 '\n  ' e4.getMessage()

> --            finally say "Caught something." -- awkward when exception is not thrown

>         End

> 

> 590 *=* method actionPerformed(evt=ActionEvent) -- signals IOException

>       >a> evt "java.awt.event.ActionEvent[ACTION_PERFORMED,cmd=Reset,when=1361472751949,modifiers=Button1] on javax.swing.JButton[,421,183,359x34,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.5,border=javax.swing.plaf.BorderUIResource$CompoundBorderUIResource@c7833c,flags=424,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,defaultIcon=,disabledIcon=,disabledSelectedIcon=,margin=javax.swing.plaf.InsetsUIResource[top=2,left=14,bottom=2,right=14],paintBorder=true,paintFocus=true,pressedIcon=,rolloverEnabled=true,rolloverIcon=,rolloverSelectedIcon=,selectedIcon=,text=Reset all scores,defaultCapable=true]"

>   592 *=*   select

>   593 *=*     when evt.getSource().equals(advanceThruDeck)

>       >>> "javax.swing.JButton[,4,183,409x34,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.5,border=javax.swing.plaf.BorderUIResource$CompoundBorderUIResource@c7833c,flags=424,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,defaultIcon=,disabledIcon=,disabledSelectedIcon=,margin=javax.swing.plaf.InsetsUIResource[top=2,left=14,bottom=2,right=14],paintBorder=true,paintFocus=true,pressedIcon=,rolloverEnabled=true,rolloverIcon=,rolloverSelectedIcon=,selectedIcon=,text=Display the next card.,defaultCapable=true]"

>       >>> "0"

>   596 *=*     when evt.getSource() == SaveExit

>       >>> "0"

>   603 *=*     when evt.getSource().equals(Submit_Check)

>       >>> "javax.swing.JButton[,4,139,409x34,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.5,border=javax.swing.plaf.BorderUIResource$CompoundBorderUIResource@c7833c,flags=424,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,defaultIcon=,disabledIcon=,disabledSelectedIcon=,margin=javax.swing.plaf.InsetsUIResource[top=2,left=14,bottom=2,right=14],paintBorder=true,paintFocus=true,pressedIcon=,rolloverEnabled=true,rolloverIcon=,rolloverSelectedIcon=,selectedIcon=,text=Submit and check your answer now.,defaultCapable=true]"

>       >>> "0"

>   606 *=*     when evt.getSource().equals(PbtRevertToZeros)

>   700 *=* method PbtRevertToZeros -- SIGNALS RuntimeException

>   702 *=*   rightAnswers = 0

>       >p> rightAnswers "0"

>   703 *=*   wrongAnswers = 0

>       >p> wrongAnswers "0"

>   704 *=*   pb.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value

>       >>> "0"

>   705 *=*   pb2.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value

>       >>> "0"

>   706 *=*   totalMinutes = 0

>       >p> totalMinutes "0"

>   707 *=*   if Debug_Level < 60

>       >>> "1"

>       *=*                       then

>       *=*                            trace off

>       >>> "4"

>       >>> "0"

>   613 *=*           otherwise

>       *=*                     say "This should not have happened, darn." -- we don't expect anything else

>       >>> "This should not have happened, darn."

> This should not have happened, darn.

>   619 *=*   end

> 

> And this is the mehod that you can see actually get executed in the when-do-clause:

> 

> method PbtRevertToZeros -- SIGNALS RuntimeException

>         if Debug_Level > 10 then trace results

>         rightAnswers = 0

>         wrongAnswers = 0

>         pb.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value

>         pb2.setValue(0) -- increment the progress bar value

>         totalMinutes = 0

>         if Debug_Level < 60 then trace off

>         loop label writeAns_doneTable qNumber = 1 to totalQCount

>                 myCard[qNumber,3] = 0

>                 myCard[qNumber,4] = 0

>         end writeAns_DoneTable

>         totalMinutes=0

>        return 4

> 

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> 

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Mike Cowlishaw
 

 

Ha. I got it. With strictargs the methods all look like properties if you omit the (). 

 

Exactly.  The designer (me) assumed that people wouldn't give properties and methods the same name, to avoid confusion, hence why have to add the ugly () for methods with no arguments?  It turned out that some people (and historical Java classes) do use the same name for both, so strictargs was added so that people would be warned about any possible confusion.

 

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