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ThSITC
Hi Rene, and all,

I need to know now whether You would like to have the Rexx2Nrx Sources
in the NetRexx Repository on Kenai.

As You know, some time ago my ancient www.Rexx2Nrx.com home-page has
been inadvertently deleted,
and is now occupied but some grabbing company.

I did already send You this query privately some time ago, but You have
been very busy with the pending
NetRexx 3.03 release those times, hence  did never get a reply ...

As KENAI does, this minute, *not allow* to create new KENAI Projects, as
it is beeing moved to Java.net,
I need to know now what to do.

My proposal shall be to put it into the:
www.kenai.com/netrexx/contributions/thsitc/rexx2nrx/... repository.

The documentations, examples, etc, shall however reside on
www.netrexx.org, in the tools section, I think.

Pls. discuss and advise.

Thomas Schneider.




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Thomas,

your sources are, as mentioned a few times here and there, in the netrexx contrib repository. They have been made to compile quite some time ago, as they did not previously due to unresolved references. You should update the contrib repository and rework your changes since the time you submitted them. If you are comfortable that they are correct, and do compile, and pass their testcases, you could check them in.

best regards,

René.

On 3 aug. 2014, at 23:26, Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Rene, and all,
>
> I need to know now whether You would like to have the Rexx2Nrx Sources in the NetRexx Repository on Kenai.
>
> As You know, some time ago my ancient www.Rexx2Nrx.com home-page has been inadvertently deleted,
> and is now occupied but some grabbing company.
>
> I did already send You this query privately some time ago, but You have been very busy with the pending
> NetRexx 3.03 release those times, hence  did never get a reply ...
>
> As KENAI does, this minute, *not allow* to create new KENAI Projects, as it is beeing moved to Java.net,
> I need to know now what to do.
>
> My proposal shall be to put it into the: www.kenai.com/netrexx/contributions/thsitc/rexx2nrx/... repository.
>
> The documentations, examples, etc, shall however reside on www.netrexx.org, in the tools section, I think.
>
> Pls. discuss and advise.
>
> Thomas Schneider.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
> [hidden email]
> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
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ThSITC
Long, Long time ago I did *Donate* the former Rexx2Nrx Run-Time-Package
to RexxLA.

I did never DONATE the Rexx2Nrx Translator itself (written originally in
classic Rexx, porting itself to NetRexx ;-))
to RexxLA!

My mail, monthes ago, has been that I am nowaday *donating* Rexx2Nrx
itself, both the classic Rexx and the
Boots-Trapped Netrexx Versions, to RexxLA. When anybody is interested,
of course.

I am not, however, using the ICU License for that major part ...

... I am NOT interested that anybody can *sell it* and I am *not*
getting anything ... !!! :-(

Thus, I did introduce the so called FAIR SHARE LICENCE (FSL).

When You sell it, I am getting 50 %
When not, it's free ;-)

Ok?

Thomas Schneider.

PS: What You, Rene, and all others did never REALIZE:

RexxLA does OWN the Rexx2Nrx Run-Time-Package since Years now, but: You
did never
market nor advertise it, nor even mention it neither on www.RexxLA.org
*nor* on www.NetRexx.org ...

Nobody even did say: Thank You (for the donation) ;-)

==============================================================================
Documented on www.thsitc.com/Rexx2Nrx
Am 03.08.2014 23:39, schrieb René Jansen:

> Thomas,
>
> your sources are, as mentioned a few times here and there, in the netrexx contrib repository. They have been made to compile quite some time ago, as they did not previously due to unresolved references. You should update the contrib repository and rework your changes since the time you submitted them. If you are comfortable that they are correct, and do compile, and pass their testcases, you could check them in.
>
> best regards,
>
> René.
>
> On 3 aug. 2014, at 23:26, Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rene, and all,
>>
>> I need to know now whether You would like to have the Rexx2Nrx Sources in the NetRexx Repository on Kenai.
>>
>> As You know, some time ago my ancient www.Rexx2Nrx.com home-page has been inadvertently deleted,
>> and is now occupied but some grabbing company.
>>
>> I did already send You this query privately some time ago, but You have been very busy with the pending
>> NetRexx 3.03 release those times, hence  did never get a reply ...
>>
>> As KENAI does, this minute, *not allow* to create new KENAI Projects, as it is beeing moved to Java.net,
>> I need to know now what to do.
>>
>> My proposal shall be to put it into the: www.kenai.com/netrexx/contributions/thsitc/rexx2nrx/... repository.
>>
>> The documentations, examples, etc, shall however reside on www.netrexx.org, in the tools section, I think.
>>
>> Pls. discuss and advise.
>>
>> Thomas Schneider.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
>>
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As already mentioned since Years, Rene:

The *utilities* in the ... /netrexx/contributions/thsitc/utils/...
branch of the still existing ancient versions
there in the NetRexx Repository (including Walter Pachl's COMAPXX
Utility) ...

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ ARE The Test-Cases for the Rexx2Nrx Run-Time-Package                  +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Comprendi, per favore ?

Tomasco Schneiderovski, Italian and Russian MAFIA (<grin>)

Ich bitte alle die letzten 3 Zeilen zu streichen, ich will und wollte
niemanden beleidigen !

Auf WiederLuaga, Dovicenia, Doswidania, Arrivederci, Au Revoir, Do
Wishdane, Wisontlatwascha
  (Hungarian phonetic only,sorry),  Bye Bye, Güle Güle, Dai dschien,
Sayonara, Tschüss, ......

In Österreich sag'ma:  PFIAT EUCH MITANAND ;-)   Happy Net'Rexx'Ing ;-)

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Am 03.08.2014 23:39, schrieb René Jansen:

> Thomas,
>
> your sources are, as mentioned a few times here and there, in the netrexx contrib repository. They have been made to compile quite some time ago, as they did not previously due to unresolved references. You should update the contrib repository and rework your changes since the time you submitted them. If you are comfortable that they are correct, and do compile, and pass their testcases, you could check them in.
>
> best regards,
>
> René.
>
> On 3 aug. 2014, at 23:26, Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rene, and all,
>>
>> I need to know now whether You would like to have the Rexx2Nrx Sources in the NetRexx Repository on Kenai.
>>
>> As You know, some time ago my ancient www.Rexx2Nrx.com home-page has been inadvertently deleted,
>> and is now occupied but some grabbing company.
>>
>> I did already send You this query privately some time ago, but You have been very busy with the pending
>> NetRexx 3.03 release those times, hence  did never get a reply ...
>>
>> As KENAI does, this minute, *not allow* to create new KENAI Projects, as it is beeing moved to Java.net,
>> I need to know now what to do.
>>
>> My proposal shall be to put it into the: www.kenai.com/netrexx/contributions/thsitc/rexx2nrx/... repository.
>>
>> The documentations, examples, etc, shall however reside on www.netrexx.org, in the tools section, I think.
>>
>> Pls. discuss and advise.
>>
>> Thomas Schneider.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
>>
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Thomas,

RexxLA oversees open source projects. Your "FSL" is not an open source license. You are welcome to donate anything with a license that is either ICU or GPL or BSD licensed, but we do not have the resources to manage anything that requires fees if sold, etc.

Your Rexx2Nrx Runtime package is appreciated, and I am sure that it can be put to good use by anyone who is looking for more Classic Rexx compatibility in NetRexx. We can, however, not assist in monetizing any code. If you want to sell it, or open it up without an open source license attached, you are on your own. I hope you understand this - and see why RexxLA cannot accept this gift.

best regards,

René Jansen.

On 3 aug. 2014, at 23:53, Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Long, Long time ago I did *Donate* the former Rexx2Nrx Run-Time-Package to RexxLA.
>
> I did never DONATE the Rexx2Nrx Translator itself (written originally in classic Rexx, porting itself to NetRexx ;-))
> to RexxLA!
>
> My mail, monthes ago, has been that I am nowaday *donating* Rexx2Nrx itself, both the classic Rexx and the
> Boots-Trapped Netrexx Versions, to RexxLA. When anybody is interested, of course.
>
> I am not, however, using the ICU License for that major part ...
>
> ... I am NOT interested that anybody can *sell it* and I am *not* getting anything ... !!! :-(
>
> Thus, I did introduce the so called FAIR SHARE LICENCE (FSL).
>
> When You sell it, I am getting 50 %
> When not, it's free ;-)
>
> Ok?
>
> Thomas Schneider.
>
> PS: What You, Rene, and all others did never REALIZE:
>
> RexxLA does OWN the Rexx2Nrx Run-Time-Package since Years now, but: You did never
> market nor advertise it, nor even mention it neither on www.RexxLA.org *nor* on www.NetRexx.org ...
>
> Nobody even did say: Thank You (for the donation) ;-)
>
> ==============================================================================
> Documented on www.thsitc.com/Rexx2Nrx
> Am 03.08.2014 23:39, schrieb René Jansen:
>> Thomas,
>>
>> your sources are, as mentioned a few times here and there, in the netrexx contrib repository. They have been made to compile quite some time ago, as they did not previously due to unresolved references. You should update the contrib repository and rework your changes since the time you submitted them. If you are comfortable that they are correct, and do compile, and pass their testcases, you could check them in.
>>
>> best regards,
>>
>> René.
>>
>> On 3 aug. 2014, at 23:26, Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rene, and all,
>>>
>>> I need to know now whether You would like to have the Rexx2Nrx Sources in the NetRexx Repository on Kenai.
>>>
>>> As You know, some time ago my ancient www.Rexx2Nrx.com home-page has been inadvertently deleted,
>>> and is now occupied but some grabbing company.
>>>
>>> I did already send You this query privately some time ago, but You have been very busy with the pending
>>> NetRexx 3.03 release those times, hence  did never get a reply ...
>>>
>>> As KENAI does, this minute, *not allow* to create new KENAI Projects, as it is beeing moved to Java.net,
>>> I need to know now what to do.
>>>
>>> My proposal shall be to put it into the: www.kenai.com/netrexx/contributions/thsitc/rexx2nrx/... repository.
>>>
>>> The documentations, examples, etc, shall however reside on www.netrexx.org, in the tools section, I think.
>>>
>>> Pls. discuss and advise.
>>>
>>> Thomas Schneider.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
>>>
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ThSITC
Hi Rene, again ...

1.) Personally. I do dis-agree with the *whole concept* of open source.
I *did agree* with the *concept* the aformentioned GEISCO (::== General
Electric Information Company) did have:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
* Author Royalties                                       +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

But, as GEISCO is DEAD, and live goes on, and on, and I did try (trust
me, or not), as I did always try to be open
minded, and I'm now getting 68 Years old, by 11th of August, 2014, ...

... and *I*, as all of *UsAll*, do never know what Your time frame of
living shall to be ...

*I* think *We* shall, together, find a way to simply *secure* at least
*Rexx2Nrx* from all of that, what I did develop,
I fool, thruout my lifetime, from beeing *off the air* when I am going
away .... :-(

2.) I do NOT take care, whether it's ICU, BSD, or GPL, or whatever, as
far as Rexx2Nrx is involved.
I did make it *Freely available*, without any fee, I think 2004, or so ...

3.) I simply *want* to focus on other things -- Music, in my case :-)

Thus, my proposal is, that we take this OFFLINE now, and may be Rony
Flatscher from the NetRexx
Board could advise me here in Vienna what shall be the best way to do :-)

Anyway, as the *next RexxLA* meeting 2015 is here, in Vienna, ths
Rexx2Nrx (as well as the Rey story)
shall be closed by then (at least, I would like to have those stories
closed, once, forever ;-)) !!!

Have a nice week, all!

Thomas Schneider.
===============================================================================


Am 04.08.2014 00:10, schrieb René Jansen:

> Thomas,
>
> RexxLA oversees open source projects. Your "FSL" is not an open source license. You are welcome to donate anything with a license that is either ICU or GPL or BSD licensed, but we do not have the resources to manage anything that requires fees if sold, etc.
>
> Your Rexx2Nrx Runtime package is appreciated, and I am sure that it can be put to good use by anyone who is looking for more Classic Rexx compatibility in NetRexx. We can, however, not assist in monetizing any code. If you want to sell it, or open it up without an open source license attached, you are on your own. I hope you understand this - and see why RexxLA cannot accept this gift.
>
> best regards,
>
> René Jansen.
>
> On 3 aug. 2014, at 23:53, Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Long, Long time ago I did *Donate* the former Rexx2Nrx Run-Time-Package to RexxLA.
>>
>> I did never DONATE the Rexx2Nrx Translator itself (written originally in classic Rexx, porting itself to NetRexx ;-))
>> to RexxLA!
>>
>> My mail, monthes ago, has been that I am nowaday *donating* Rexx2Nrx itself, both the classic Rexx and the
>> Boots-Trapped Netrexx Versions, to RexxLA. When anybody is interested, of course.
>>
>> I am not, however, using the ICU License for that major part ...
>>
>> ... I am NOT interested that anybody can *sell it* and I am *not* getting anything ... !!! :-(
>>
>> Thus, I did introduce the so called FAIR SHARE LICENCE (FSL).
>>
>> When You sell it, I am getting 50 %
>> When not, it's free ;-)
>>
>> Ok?
>>
>> Thomas Schneider.
>>
>> PS: What You, Rene, and all others did never REALIZE:
>>
>> RexxLA does OWN the Rexx2Nrx Run-Time-Package since Years now, but: You did never
>> market nor advertise it, nor even mention it neither on www.RexxLA.org *nor* on www.NetRexx.org ...
>>
>> Nobody even did say: Thank You (for the donation) ;-)
>>
>> ==============================================================================
>> Documented on www.thsitc.com/Rexx2Nrx
>> Am 03.08.2014 23:39, schrieb René Jansen:
>>> Thomas,
>>>
>>> your sources are, as mentioned a few times here and there, in the netrexx contrib repository. They have been made to compile quite some time ago, as they did not previously due to unresolved references. You should update the contrib repository and rework your changes since the time you submitted them. If you are comfortable that they are correct, and do compile, and pass their testcases, you could check them in.
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>>
>>> René.
>>>
>>> On 3 aug. 2014, at 23:26, Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rene, and all,
>>>>
>>>> I need to know now whether You would like to have the Rexx2Nrx Sources in the NetRexx Repository on Kenai.
>>>>
>>>> As You know, some time ago my ancient www.Rexx2Nrx.com home-page has been inadvertently deleted,
>>>> and is now occupied but some grabbing company.
>>>>
>>>> I did already send You this query privately some time ago, but You have been very busy with the pending
>>>> NetRexx 3.03 release those times, hence  did never get a reply ...
>>>>
>>>> As KENAI does, this minute, *not allow* to create new KENAI Projects, as it is beeing moved to Java.net,
>>>> I need to know now what to do.
>>>>
>>>> My proposal shall be to put it into the: www.kenai.com/netrexx/contributions/thsitc/rexx2nrx/... repository.
>>>>
>>>> The documentations, examples, etc, shall however reside on www.netrexx.org, in the tools section, I think.
>>>>
>>>> Pls. discuss and advise.
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Schneider.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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Oh, forgot:

www.db-123.com  (another ancient home-page & product of mine)

is as well a quite good test-case for Rexx2Nrx (as it has been
originally started in The IBM Rexx Compiler, then
Object Rexx 1.0, then switched to Rexx2Nrx due to the at those times
disastrous I/O performance of Object Rexx)

End of (my) story why I did develop Rexx2Nrx ;-) ... Didn't know about
REGINA those times (too Busy
with COBOL, PL/I, DL/I, IBM IMS, IBM VSE, Windows NT, SQL Server, CICS,
etc, those times ....

Thomas.
===============================================================================
Am 04.08.2014 00:09, schrieb Thomas Schneider:

> As already mentioned since Years, Rene:
>
> The *utilities* in the ... /netrexx/contributions/thsitc/utils/...
> branch of the still existing ancient versions
> there in the NetRexx Repository (including Walter Pachl's COMAPXX
> Utility) ...
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> + ARE The Test-Cases for the Rexx2Nrx Run-Time-Package                  +
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Comprendi, per favore ?
>
> Tomasco Schneiderovski, Italian and Russian MAFIA (<grin>)
>
> Ich bitte alle die letzten 3 Zeilen zu streichen, ich will und wollte
> niemanden beleidigen !
>
> Auf WiederLuaga, Dovicenia, Doswidania, Arrivederci, Au Revoir, Do
> Wishdane, Wisontlatwascha
>  (Hungarian phonetic only,sorry),  Bye Bye, Güle Güle, Dai dschien,
> Sayonara, Tschüss, ......
>
> In Österreich sag'ma:  PFIAT EUCH MITANAND ;-)   Happy Net'Rexx'Ing ;-)
>
> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>
> Am 03.08.2014 23:39, schrieb René Jansen:
>> Thomas,
>>
>> your sources are, as mentioned a few times here and there, in the
>> netrexx contrib repository. They have been made to compile quite some
>> time ago, as they did not previously due to unresolved references.
>> You should update the contrib repository and rework your changes
>> since the time you submitted them. If you are comfortable that they
>> are correct, and do compile, and pass their testcases, you could
>> check them in.
>>
>> best regards,
>>
>> René.
>>
>> On 3 aug. 2014, at 23:26, Thomas Schneider
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rene, and all,
>>>
>>> I need to know now whether You would like to have the Rexx2Nrx
>>> Sources in the NetRexx Repository on Kenai.
>>>
>>> As You know, some time ago my ancient www.Rexx2Nrx.com home-page has
>>> been inadvertently deleted,
>>> and is now occupied but some grabbing company.
>>>
>>> I did already send You this query privately some time ago, but You
>>> have been very busy with the pending
>>> NetRexx 3.03 release those times, hence  did never get a reply ...
>>>
>>> As KENAI does, this minute, *not allow* to create new KENAI
>>> Projects, as it is beeing moved to Java.net,
>>> I need to know now what to do.
>>>
>>> My proposal shall be to put it into the:
>>> www.kenai.com/netrexx/contributions/thsitc/rexx2nrx/... repository.
>>>
>>> The documentations, examples, etc, shall however reside on
>>> www.netrexx.org, in the tools section, I think.
>>>
>>> Pls. discuss and advise.
>>>
>>> Thomas Schneider.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
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>>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
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