Using NetRexx as an Internet Scripting Language

[ThSITC]

Hello there,
    I would like to use NetRexx as the scripting language for my home-page.

    I would like to use NetRexx instead of the current PHP / JavaScript
I'm using.

Questions:

1.) Has somebody in this group alredy practical experience how to do this?
2.) Could you, when yes above, please send me some examples as
attachments by private mail, please.
3.) How can I convince my provider to install NetRexx on the Internet
server, and what has to be installed?  (NetRexxC, I assume)
4.) Would you recommend it?

I only hope this is the right forum to discuss this ;-)

Thomas Schneider.



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[ThSITC]

Hello Bob,

    1.) Rony Flatscher has made an excellent presentation of using
Object Rexx in the Bean Scripting Framework a while ago at a REXXLA
Symposium (I think back there in the US when I did announce the Release
of Rexx2Nrx.

    2.) For various reasons, I would like to use NetRexx as the
Scripting Language.

    3.) As NetRexx can be invoked with option -interpret, in an
interpretative mode (which Kermit Kiser proves very well with his
NetRexxScript plugin
for JEdit (see www.JEdit.org and Kermit Kiser's 'NetRexx PLUS' project
there at www.kenai.com), there must be a very easy method to use NetRexx
*as the scripting Language* (similar to ooRexx) in  HTML Files.

   4.) And, my current thinking is:

We should collect the knowledge *HOW to do this*. I, for my point, am
currently busy with other things (not to mention what), and thus thought
it might be ueful to raise this issue here at ibm-netrexx so that we all
do know
  how it should be done :-)

Best greetings from VERY HOT (+37 degrees Celsius, don't know that in
Fahrenheit) Vienna, Austria, Europe,

Thomas Schneider.
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Am 26.08.2011 20:01, schrieb Robert Hamilton:

> Herr Schneider:
> We have ooREXX4.1.0 running in CGI at ukServers.net.  You put
>
> #!html    Rexx
>
>  in the first line of the HTML file and Rexx processes it. Don't know
> how NetRexx would fit in CGI.  ????
>
> Bob Hamilton
>
>

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[Fernando Cassia-2]

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 17:37, Thomas Schneider
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> there must be a very easy method to use NetRexx *as the scripting Language*
> (similar to ooRexx) in  HTML Files.

If you' re thinking about SERVER-SIDE stuff, you obviously can create
a Javabean in NetRexx.

If, however, you want CLIENT-SIDE scripting, that obviously won't
happen, as it'd require NetRexx to be embedded into the browser.

That won't happen without the cooperation of the rest of the browser
makers... who have all settled on Javascript (Microsoft calls it
JSCript).

FC

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[Kermit Kiser]

Although running NetRexx directly on the client without a Java plugin is
not possible, in theory (Disclaimer: I have not tried this yet!) it
should be possible to convert NetRexx into Javascript using a tool like
the Google Web Toolkit:

http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/overview.html

Bill's Eclipse plugin might make this easy someday. If anyone can work
out how to do this and document it, that would be a valuable addition to
the capabilities of NetRexx!

-- Kermit

On 8/26/2011 2:12 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 17:37, Thomas Schneider
> <[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> there must be a very easy method to use NetRexx *as the scripting Language*
>> (similar to ooRexx) in  HTML Files.
> If you' re thinking about SERVER-SIDE stuff, you obviously can create
> a Javabean in NetRexx.
>
> If, however, you want CLIENT-SIDE scripting, that obviously won't
> happen, as it'd require NetRexx to be embedded into the browser.
>
> That won't happen without the cooperation of the rest of the browser
> makers... who have all settled on Javascript (Microsoft calls it
> JSCript).
>
> FC
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[rvjansen]

you can, of course, make an applet that can be run by any one with a decent JVM and Java plugin for their browsers. The NetRexx runtime can be packaged in your app.

René.

On 26 aug. 2011, at 18:32, Thomas Schneider wrote:

> Hello there,
>   I would like to use NetRexx as the scripting language for my home-page.
>
>   I would like to use NetRexx instead of the current PHP / JavaScript I'm using.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1.) Has somebody in this group alredy practical experience how to do this?
> 2.) Could you, when yes above, please send me some examples as attachments by private mail, please.
> 3.) How can I convince my provider to install NetRexx on the Internet server, and what has to be installed?  (NetRexxC, I assume)
> 4.) Would you recommend it?
>
> I only hope this is the right forum to discuss this ;-)
>
> Thomas Schneider.
>
>
>
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[Fernando Cassia-2]

I think you are misunderstanding, René... by client side netrexx scripting I understand embedding netrexx code inside HTML pages just like Javascript is done these days. For that to work, that would require that EVERY BROWSER includes a netrexx runtime embedded into it.

FC

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:34, René Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote:

you can, of course, make an applet that can be run by any one with a decent JVM and Java plugin for their browsers. The NetRexx runtime can be packaged in your app.

René.

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[rvjansen]

Hi fernando,

I am just offering this as an extra option;Thomas's (3) hints at server side because he wonders how to get a provider to install NetRexx … so I am not sure if Thomas is totally clear on what he wants- I am just making sure NetRexx applets are not forgotten.

best regards,

René.

On 27 aug. 2011, at 18:15, Fernando Cassia wrote:

I think you are misunderstanding, René... by client side netrexx scripting I understand embedding netrexx code inside HTML pages just like Javascript is done these days. For that to work, that would require that EVERY BROWSER includes a netrexx runtime embedded into it.

FC

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:34, René Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote:

you can, of course, make an applet that can be run by any one with a decent JVM and Java plugin for their browsers. The NetRexx runtime can be packaged in your app.

René.

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[rvjansen]

I have tried this - or attempted to do this, but at the time I was bogged down in platform specific toolsets that Google has thought up - in that particular timeframe they choked on 64 bit OSX. We might try again, however.

best regards,

René.

On 27 aug. 2011, at 00:45, Kermit Kiser wrote:

> Although running NetRexx directly on the client without a Java plugin is not possible, in theory (Disclaimer: I have not tried this yet!) it should be possible to convert NetRexx into Javascript using a tool like the Google Web Toolkit:
>
> http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/overview.html
>
> Bill's Eclipse plugin might make this easy someday. If anyone can work out how to do this and document it, that would be a valuable addition to the capabilities of NetRexx!
>
> -- Kermit
>
> On 8/26/2011 2:12 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 17:37, Thomas Schneider
>> <[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>> there must be a very easy method to use NetRexx *as the scripting Language*
>>> (similar to ooRexx) in  HTML Files.
>> If you' re thinking about SERVER-SIDE stuff, you obviously can create
>> a Javabean in NetRexx.
>>
>> If, however, you want CLIENT-SIDE scripting, that obviously won't
>> happen, as it'd require NetRexx to be embedded into the browser.
>>
>> That won't happen without the cooperation of the rest of the browser
>> makers... who have all settled on Javascript (Microsoft calls it
>> JSCript).
>>
>> FC
>>
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[ThSITC]

Rene, thanks for your clarification. I'm still experimenting with
NetRexx applet's (which I did never use before, sorry to say), and thus
you advise just comes in handy....

Thomas Schneider.
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Am 27.08.2011 17:34, schrieb René Jansen:

> you can, of course, make an applet that can be run by any one with a decent JVM and Java plugin for their browsers. The NetRexx runtime can be packaged in your app.
>
> René.
>
> On 26 aug. 2011, at 18:32, Thomas Schneider wrote:
>
>> Hello there,
>>    I would like to use NetRexx as the scripting language for my home-page.
>>
>>    I would like to use NetRexx instead of the current PHP / JavaScript I'm using.
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> 1.) Has somebody in this group alredy practical experience how to do this?
>> 2.) Could you, when yes above, please send me some examples as attachments by private mail, please.
>> 3.) How can I convince my provider to install NetRexx on the Internet server, and what has to be installed?  (NetRexxC, I assume)
>> 4.) Would you recommend it?
>>
>> I only hope this is the right forum to discuss this ;-)
>>
>> Thomas Schneider.
>>
>>
>>
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[ThSITC]

Hi Rene, and all,
   I would like to use NetRexx as then scripting language IMBEDDED in HTML code (instead of PHP, which my programmer used in my home-page from time to time).

  From this on going further: my overall INTERNET knowledge is too small for all the variants available.... :-( Sorry, nobody is perfect ;-) )
Thomas.
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Am 27.08.2011 19:05, schrieb René Jansen:

Hi fernando,

I am just offering this as an extra option;Thomas's (3) hints at server side because he wonders how to get a provider to install NetRexx … so I am not sure if Thomas is totally clear on what he wants- I am just making sure NetRexx applets are not forgotten.

best regards,

René.

On 27 aug. 2011, at 18:15, Fernando Cassia wrote:

I think you are misunderstanding, René... by client side netrexx scripting I understand embedding netrexx code inside HTML pages just like Javascript is done these days. For that to work, that would require that EVERY BROWSER includes a netrexx runtime embedded into it.

FC

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:34, René Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote:

you can, of course, make an applet that can be run by any one with a decent JVM and Java plugin for their browsers. The NetRexx runtime can be packaged in your app.

René.

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