What's the STATUS of Tom Maynard's NetRexx Installer, please ?

[ThSITC]

As you all do know, I'm preparing a couple of releases from my shop.

As all of my soft going to be released soon, namely Rexx2Nrx vs. 7,
RexxForm, DB-123 (now also supporting PL/I
as well as COBOL, and finally, a bit later,  the long announced PP are
now in pure Netrexx, any of those
will require a proper installation of the NetRexx Compler (as many of
them do actually GENERATE
NetRexx programs in turn (as well as COBOL and/or PL/I programs).

As DB-123, and PL/I, an RexxForm, etc, shall be also excutable on z/OS
machines, for instance,
when the customer wants to run those software on his own mainfram, and
not under the standard
SaaS (Software as a Service) over the Cloud, ...

I'm herewith asking wheher the NetRexx 3.02 RC3 release is now available for
downloading (which it is, I do know), but using the INSTALLER, to insatll it
preperly on Windows, linux, AIX, Unix, and z/OS (to name a couple only),
or installation has still to be tailored by the ADMIn by hand ...

Rene, Tom Maynard, please do advise of the current state of the art on
his topic.

When not yet available (even in an alpha/ beta mode), plase release
your surrent release SCHEDULES (wit best date guestimates).

We (ThSITC IT Consulting KG) will have an official PRESS release
of the products mentioned above in early autumn 2012 (but after my
teeth have been renovated: I did loose a couple of CHECKET CRONES
when eating a CAROTTE, a while ago, and am going to get all teeth extracted,
and replaced by the third set of teeth ;-) this shozuld then last for a
while,
i do think, at least!

Yes,Yes, friends, we all are getting older, year by year ...
When i do re-calculate how much money I did invest in checket crones the
past 20 years ... OH! I don't even want to remind... Has ben sure enough
money for a second small car ...

Such is life, and it's going sucher and ucher, as my GEISCO Friend
Manfred Schmucker
always used to say ;-)

Have a nice weeked, al NetRexx'ers!

See you next year in Raleigh, anyway!
Thomas.



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[Tom Maynard]

On 07/21/2012 11:52 AM, Thomas Schneider wrote:
> Rene, Tom Maynard, please do advise of the current state of the art on
> his topic.

Thomas, we've already had this discussion: IzPack is fully ready for use
(http://izpack.org).  The stable version if v4.3.5, the current
development head is v5.0.0-beta10 ... either one is quite usable, I
suggest you peruse the documentation to decide which is best suited for
your purpose.

"My" installer will never concern itself with your "soft."  If you wish
to automate its distribution and installation you'll need to provide
your own installer.

Tom.

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[George Hovey-2]

Thomas,
Re replacement, Bangkok is said to do this expertly and cheaply.  My (American) dentist wants $3000 per tooth.  You could make this part of your far eastern honeymoon :). (Congratulations, BTW; as one who married at about your age,  I'd say you've made a life-extending decision).

On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Tom Maynard <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 07/21/2012 11:52 AM, Thomas Schneider wrote:

Rene, Tom Maynard, please do advise of the current state of the art on his topic.

Thomas, we've already had this discussion: IzPack is fully ready for use (http://izpack.org).  The stable version if v4.3.5, the current development head is v5.0.0-beta10 ... either one is quite usable, I suggest you peruse the documentation to decide which is best suited for your purpose.

"My" installer will never concern itself with your "soft."  If you wish to automate its distribution and installation you'll need to provide your own installer.

Tom.

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[ThSITC]

Hello Tom (all others for info),

    I've written, for my own part, a simple installer (in NetRexx, what
else) which does download
my soft from my home-page (wwww.thsitc.com). I only do use .jar files,
for simplicity; even the sources
are in.jar's (NOT ZIP and TAR's), again, for simplicity.

   Customer might donwload a DEMO Licence (liited oa specific nuber of
SOURCE LINES,
or TOTAL SQL Tables, in the DB-123 case), try it, then either:

   -- SIGN a PROJECT agreement -- we (ThSITC) do the actual conversion work.
   -- SIGN an SaaS Ageement   -- we TRAIN the customer, and his staff  
then does the work
   -- SIGN an InHouse Licence (maily interesting for z/OS Customers),
with a MAINTENANCE Contract,
with the usual 20% yearly maintenance fee
   --SIGN a SOURCE CODE Licence as well (when he wants to have access to
the SOURCE)

Source Code willbe on an own SVN Server (NOT on KENAI). Co-Workers
(Source Code, Maintenance,
Documentatin, LOCAL SUPPORT in FOREIGN Countries, abroad Austria,
etcetc) will get a
ThSITC Contributor Contract, with a Licence Model I did call: FSL: Fair
Share Licence.

I'm just preparing all of these -- with some legal advise -- which is a
hell of a work, as yo might imagine.

The FSL Licence is driven by the followig idea:

-- any CONTRIBUTOR does get a FAIR SHARE (based on the worldwide income
of the product in question)
-- the CONTRIBUTION is measured simply in number of source lines
contributed, bugs corrected,
enhancements (measured in nuber of source-lines, again), etc.
-- thus, it is NOT an OPEN SOURCE Licence; I did discuss this with the
OSL people in detail;
we are asking for MONEY for using our Software. I personally did invest
too much time, money,
etc in the devlopment to simply give it away for nothing ... It#äs now
time to EARN money,
as we will focus on NATURAL LANGUAGE Translation starting 2013, and my
KG will turn
into an Austrian AKTIENGESELLSCHAFT (AG) for the latter Poject, the
Logos Engine.
There, we are collecting Strategic Investors (BIG, International
Compnies, financing this
truly international project).

Before I do announce what we will do the next years, too much, it's
currently the time
to Complete and Release, what has been done the past 10 years :-)

You all will, of course, get the press releases when done.

Thank you all for your patience -- with me personally --.

I *do KNOW* I can go somebody on the *NERVES* very quickly.

On the other side, without working hard, you'll nver get a reult -- and
I have een
alwys result oriented in my whole Business life (rpvate life and hobbies
and personal
interestsare a totally other story, of course)

Ok, end of this lengthy answer.

I do only hope I did not make too many mis-typings again, Mr. chip
Davie, special
note for you: I'm trying to improve my behaviour, always, since I've
been born ;-)

Have a nice wekkend,
and thank yo, tom Maynard, for your immediate reply.

What I still do NOT know whether I can use your Installer now to

Install NetRexx on a zOS Machine -- without manual Intervention
necessary ...

Will now have to go ahead and read the oc's on the URL you provided
..
Thanks again,

All: Have  nice weekend, and sorry for the interruption!


Am 21.07.2012 18:59, schrieb Tom Maynard:

> On 07/21/2012 11:52 AM, Thomas Schneider wrote:
>> Rene, Tom Maynard, please do advise of the current state of the art
>> on his topic.
>
> Thomas, we've already had this discussion: IzPack is fully ready for
> use (http://izpack.org).  The stable version if v4.3.5, the current
> development head is v5.0.0-beta10 ... either one is quite usable, I
> suggest you peruse the documentation to decide which is best suited
> for your purpose.
>
> "My" installer will never concern itself with your "soft."  If you
> wish to automate its distribution and installation you'll need to
> provide your own installer.
>
> Tom.
>
>

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[ThSITC]

Hi Geroge, hear I must LAUGH quite LOUD!

Contrary to many contries, Austria has a VERY DENSE SOCIAL SECURITY Network!

'm simply getting ALL teeth EXTRACTED, *and then* the so called Third Teeth (whichyou can
put simply in & out, on demand, or when you like, or maybe your woman asks you to do so
for a deep 69 ? Sorry, don't know whether there are ladies on this list at all !!

Was meant as a ))maybe a bit dirty ?) joke! Hope *this* *is* *permitted* *here*,
at least from time to time.

Now good news are:

My Austrian SOCIAL SECURITY doespay the majority of the costs.

My part is 800 Euro (eight hundred Euro) for 32 perfect teeth made in Porcellane.

In this case, it is VERY advataguous to lve in Vienna, and NOT in the US!

You will see me smiling wth this new teeth in Raleigh, next RexxLA meeting.

This time (2013) I will come personally, again, as I'll introduce

The Rey Language  ( a new programming language, based on 40 Years
of programing expereicne in, I think, at least 30 different languages.

Of Course, we will also supply a Nrx2Rey utility.

What will change?

% will, for instance, be no longer be the INTEGER DIVISION!

a = 300 - 14 %

will mean. Guess what?

Massa Thomas <grin> ;-).
 
Am 21.07.2012 19:24, schrieb George Hovey:

Thomas,
Re replacement, Bangkok is said to do this expertly and cheaply.  My (American) dentist wants $3000 per tooth.  You could make this part of your far eastern honeymoon :). (Congratulations, BTW; as one who married at about your age,  I'd say you've made a life-extending decision).

On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Tom Maynard <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 07/21/2012 11:52 AM, Thomas Schneider wrote:

Rene, Tom Maynard, please do advise of the current state of the art on his topic.

Thomas, we've already had this discussion: IzPack is fully ready for use (http://izpack.org).  The stable version if v4.3.5, the current development head is v5.0.0-beta10 ... either one is quite usable, I suggest you peruse the documentation to decide which is best suited for your purpose.

"My" installer will never concern itself with your "soft."  If you wish to automate its distribution and installation you'll need to provide your own installer.

Tom.

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