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merry X-mas (and 1 question).

Thomas.Schneider
Hello Mike & al,

  I do hope that all your projects are going well and you will not have a
150% load over the holidays.
  Anyway, I would like to wish you and your family a merry X-mas and a happy
new year.

  -- just 1 bit of additional help is required. I do have now nearly
finished Rexx2Nrx release 4.00. I am still updating my home page,and running
some final tests, but a release date of 1.1.2003 looks realistic.

Now, as a matter of fact, I did not manage to SELL 1 single licence (not
even at 99 EUR, not to talk about site licences or whatever.)
I did had 1 ealy order for 1 EUR99 licence, but this has never been paid.
Thus, from the commercial viepoint, the project is a disaster.

On the other hand, a lot of people tried it and did complain about
DEMO-licence expired.

Except those messages about 'DEMO-licence expired', I did never receive any
bug reports, or wish-lists, so maybe the whole project has been a nonsense
idea. No need for it (except my personal one). I don't know..

As it is X-mas time, and as I am now going to finish this project, as the
work is done, and as I obvioulsy cannot get money out of it,
I do have an idea:
 
 - I will make Rexx2Nrx a 'FREE' product: as Java is FREE, and NetRexx is
FREE, maybe more people will become interested if Rexx2Nrx is also FREE??  I
will announce this in a couple of days. What do you think ?

Now, the 1 open question is: should I go OPEN SOURCE or should I simply say
that the usage is free, and hold the source.

What do you think?
best regards from cold Vienna, Tom.

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Re: merry X-mas (and 1 question).

Fernando Cassia
Hi Thomas,

Even at $99 EUR, and as much as I'd like to purchase it, we suffered a ~ 250% devaluation of our currency to the US dollar, so purchasing a $99 USD / $99 EUR product is out of almost everybody's budget (in the local market, at least), and I do know a lot of folks down here still involved with rexx, java, and os/2.

Due to this crisis, even MSFT down here has kept prices more or less at the same levels as last year, measured in local currency, because if they had kept the prices tied to the US dollar, they wouldn't sell a single license. (even if that means getting less than one third of the income they used to get).

When you offer a $15 USD license, I'll be first in line to purchase it. :o)

Sometimes I wonder why can't shareware vendors offer the same level of price flexibility based on a region's income levels, as the SOME of the big guys (well, IBM for instance, didn't, and they kept their prices in US dollars, that's why I dropped my Software Choice subscription, sadly... :-(( ).

But I'm not blaming you in particular, I'm just thinking aloud here, about the reality of the market.

And if you decide to set it free, I'd suggest reading and exploring the differences between popular open source licenses:

the Mozilla Public License:
http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/

the Apache license:
 http://www.apache.org/LICENSE.txt

or GNU "LGPL" license...
 http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html

all offer varying degrees of freedom, and in both cases the source will be free, the product will be able to evolve beyond you and take a life on its own. In the case of the Apache license and mozilla licenses, even if someone wants to integrate it into some commercial product, it will be possible as well. (the GPL license is too restrictive, imho, not allowing any commercial derivatives without free source, but the LGPL gives the developers a little bit more freedom).

If, however, you want to still have control over commercial licenses, take a look at Sun's "Community Source" or "Sun Industry Standards License" (SISL) approaches, which afaik, basically say that 'you can do whatever you want with the source, and use it freely for whatever purpose, create derivatives, and so on, BUT if you plan to use the source to sell your own commercial product, it will still need to be licensed on a case by case basis".

http://wwws.sun.com/software/communitysource/
http://www.openoffice.org/licenses/sissl_license.html

Regards and best wishes for the coming holidays to you and everyone else on this list as well!.

Fernando Cassia
Buenos Aires, Argentina

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Hello Mike & al,

  I do hope that all your projects are going well and you will not have a
150% load over the holidays.
  Anyway, I would like to wish you and your family a merry X-mas and a happy
new year.

  -- just 1 bit of additional help is required. I do have now nearly
finished Rexx2Nrx release 4.00. I am still updating my home page,and running
some final tests, but a release date of 1.1.2003 looks realistic.

Now, as a matter of fact, I did not manage to SELL 1 single licence (not
even at 99 EUR, not to talk about site licences or whatever.)
I did had 1 ealy order for 1 EUR99 licence, but this has never been paid.
Thus, from the commercial viepoint, the project is a disaster.

On the other hand, a lot of people tried it and did complain about
DEMO-licence expired.

Except those messages about 'DEMO-licence expired', I did never receive any
bug reports, or wish-lists, so maybe the whole project has been a nonsense
idea. No need for it (except my personal one). I don't know..

As it is X-mas time, and as I am now going to finish this project, as the
work is done, and as I obvioulsy cannot get money out of it,
I do have an idea:

 - I will make Rexx2Nrx a 'FREE' product: as Java is FREE, and NetRexx is
FREE, maybe more people will become interested if Rexx2Nrx is also FREE??  I
will announce this in a couple of days. What do you think ?

Now, the 1 open question is: should I go OPEN SOURCE or should I simply say
that the usage is free, and hold the source.

What do you think?
best regards from cold Vienna, Tom.

.
 

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