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Some minutes ago, as already twittered, the site went live; in the short timeframe it was the best I could do. I opted for compatibility with mobile and less toleration of older browsers - but not too old - which means I took out the Flash menus that I planned to have and converted to html5. I checked with Safari (Mac and iOS) and FireFox, other browsers have to follow. I'll add 'loading' indicators to the next drop; just checked over slow phone and it appears not to be a luxury to have one. Although all the stuff is in version management, please coordinate content with me. Suggestions and "ready to paste' content is always welcome.
Be sure to also add stuff to the FaceBook page and point to it. (You can find that on the website, 'community' tab. The code repository might be available with a speed that might surprise you all, given the total elapsed time of this project. The repository site will host wiki and additional lists we need for the developer community; it also will host the system for requirements and bug reporting. Finally, tweets to @NetRexx will also draw much needed attention. best regards, René Jansen. _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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René,Looks good on Windows Firefox, Chrome, and Opera. Slow loading the first time. The HYPE adds a lot of overhead for a simple page. One comment: When I say it works, that is WWW.NetRexx.Org , but just NetRexx.Org is a "Protected Site" needing User Name and Password. I do hope, greatly, that the "protection" will soon be removed and both point to the same page. I add my congratulations to you on your establishment! Jeff On 6/9/2011 6:17 PM, René Jansen wrote: Some minutes ago, as already twittered, the site went live; in the short timeframe it was the best I could do. I opted for compatibility with mobile and less toleration of older browsers - but not too old - which means I took out the Flash menus that I planned to have and converted to html5. I checked with Safari (Mac and iOS) and FireFox, other browsers have to follow. I'll add 'loading' indicators to the next drop; just checked over slow phone and it appears not to be a luxury to have one. Although all the stuff is in version management, please coordinate content with me. Suggestions and "ready to paste' content is always welcome. Be sure to also add stuff to the FaceBook page and point to it. (You can find that on the website, 'community' tab. The code repository might be available with a speed that might surprise you all, given the total elapsed time of this project. The repository site will host wiki and additional lists we need for the developer community; it also will host the system for requirements and bug reporting. Finally, tweets to @NetRexx will also draw much needed attention. best regards, René Jansen. _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 19:17, René Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote:
> which means I took out the Flash menus that I planned to have and converted to html5. That was great. Flash menus are a disgrace of the internet and go against everything the open standards based web stands for. They´re not even needed anyway, you can create pretty decent DYNAMIC MENUS in DHTML (CSS+Javascript). There´s a nice tool that creates standrds-compliant, animated menus in DHTML, but it´s commercial: http://www.sothink.com/product/dhtmlmenu/index.htm?gclid=CIvOqr6wqqkCFSRe7AodDlr5Og You might want to have a look at it if you plan to resurrect your former Flash menus as something standards-compliant. Thanks again for all your efforts FC _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 19:17, René Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Finally, tweets to @NetRexx will also draw much needed attention. Just tweeted about it. The last line of text, above the box, gets cut: "still a great improvement on all of its" and it ends there. Must be related to the fact that I´m on a Netbook, with very limited vertical resolution. (1024x600). My browser is Mozilla SeaMonkey 2.1 (the product formerly known as Mozilla), which uses the same rendering engine as Firefox 4 FC PS: One suggestion, I wouldn´t draw attention to Rexx´s age, or if you do make sure it´s highlighted in a positive way. Otherwise some might think of age as a disadvantage (you know, the kind of people who think "new" equals "better" and "old" means crap). So instead of "the granddaddy of scripting languages", I´d call it "The time-proven, human-centric and reliable King of Scripting Languages". ;) _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Fernando,
I see the same at 1920 X 1080. George On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Fernando Cassia <[hidden email]> wrote:
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yes, this is odd, will try to find out why. I swear when I looked at it last it was OK, but checked it this afternoon when I was 100KM from my home and I saw the same thing as you did.
Will make sure we have all the text this time. René. On Jun 10, 2011, at 6:10 AM, George Hovey wrote: Fernando, _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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About 'the granddaddy' - there is no denying that Rexx is from the eighties, and "Programming Language Pragmatics" calls it the the first scripting language (I have to look it up, only have dead tree version) and even granddaddy. The point here is that NetRexx would be another first. and that point would be lost if I change it to the formula you suggest. Let us all have a think on the correct way to express this point.
Interestingly, a picture from 'the history of programming languages timeline' (oreilly and another place) which I wanted to use, has Rexx as a successor to AWK and a wrong date (1991) for NetRexx. There is some work to do here. René. On Jun 10, 2011, at 6:10 AM, George Hovey wrote: Fernando, _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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On 6/10/2011 11:18 AM, René Jansen wrote:
> About 'the granddaddy'...Let us all have a think on the correct way to > express this point. > How about "the newest implementation of one of the earliest scripting languages, now available for the JVM" -- or words to that effect? Tom. _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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The 'newest' part is not bad, if we follow Fernando's reasoning, but 'now available' is some 15 years off the mark - part of the problem here is my effort to convey that, at least in my opinion, both things were done right the first time, and a long time ago - while being firsts. Also, it suggests more compatibility with Rexx than there actually is - remember some of the opinions voiced on this list, that NetRexx stands on its own and has nothing to do with Rexx(LA)? While I disagree with that, I do not want to stoke the discussion. Thanks for thinking with us here; I certainly will use your sentence some place on the website.
Anyway I put in Fernando's sentence - cannot argue with its merit. René. On Jun 10, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Tom Maynard wrote: > On 6/10/2011 11:18 AM, René Jansen wrote: >> About 'the granddaddy'...Let us all have a think on the correct way to express this point. >> > > How about "the newest implementation of one of the earliest scripting languages, now available for the JVM" -- or words to that effect? > > Tom. > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Just curious: what other scripting languages produce code for JVM things??
Bobh
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What are the operating systems that nrx runs on?
BOBH
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:34 PM, René Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote: The 'newest' part is not bad, if we follow Fernando's reasoning, but 'now available' is some 15 years off the mark - part of the problem here is my effort to convey that, at least in my opinion, both things were done right the first time, and a long time ago - while being firsts. Also, it suggests more compatibility with Rexx than there actually is - remember some of the opinions voiced on this list, that NetRexx stands on its own and has nothing to do with Rexx(LA)? While I disagree with that, I do not want to stoke the discussion. Thanks for thinking with us here; I certainly will use your sentence some place on the website. _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Bob, any OS that runs java. _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Several, jruby, jython, jacl, rhino. _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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On 10 June 2011 10:50, Robert Hamilton <[hidden email]> wrote: Well for a start there's Groovy, Ruby (jruby) and Python (jython).
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Rene,
Just a fragment related to your problem.
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:34 PM, René Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote: The 'newest' part is not bad, if we follow Fernando's reasoning, but 'now available' is some 15 years off the mark - part of the problem here is my effort to convey that, at least in my opinion, both things were done right the first time, and a long time ago - while being firsts. Also, it suggests more compatibility with Rexx than there actually is - remember some of the opinions voiced on this list, that NetRexx stands on its own and has nothing to do with Rexx(LA)? While I disagree with that, I do not want to stoke the discussion. Thanks for thinking with us here; I certainly will use your sentence some place on the website. _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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On 10 June 2011 10:52, Robert Hamilton <[hidden email]> wrote: Any and all operating systems that can run Java.
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On 6/10/2011 12:34 PM, René Jansen wrote:
> The 'newest' part is not bad, if we follow Fernando's reasoning, but 'now available' is some 15 years off the mark Well, I didn't say "recently available" -- what I meant was "now available (as it has been for 15 years) for the JVM." <g> I suppose "Currently available" might be better. > Also, it suggests more compatibility with Rexx than there actually is Really? I don't read it that way. "The newest implementation" doesn't necessarily convey "backward compatible" -- things rarely are these days. You could say "Newest version" or even simply "Current implementation" ("Modern implementation?" ... "Modern revision?" ... or, heck, even "JVM implementation"). You could drive yourself crazy over just a few words. Oh! "Modern implementation of one of the earliest scripting languages, with revisions to run on the JVM." (Or, "to suit the JVM" or "to accommodate the JVM environment" -- you get the idea(s).) My current version: "A modern implementation of one of the earliest scripting languages, with revisions to suit the JVM environment." > Thanks for thinking with us here; I certainly will use your sentence some place on the website. > You asked, I thought. Now the seed is planted, I'll continue to gnaw on this like an old dog with a new bone. Tom. _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Google "WIKI JVM LANGUAGES".
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Robert Hamilton <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Hello Rene, and all,
when I could help with my tools to make NetRexx more Rexx compatible, and when the community derves that feature, I am ready to go :-) Thomas. ========================================================= Am 10.06.2011 19:34, schrieb René Jansen: > The 'newest' part is not bad, if we follow Fernando's reasoning, but 'now available' is some 15 years off the mark - part of the problem here is my effort to convey that, at least in my opinion, both things were done right the first time, and a long time ago - while being firsts. Also, it suggests more compatibility with Rexx than there actually is - remember some of the opinions voiced on this list, that NetRexx stands on its own and has nothing to do with Rexx(LA)? While I disagree with that, I do not want to stoke the discussion. Thanks for thinking with us here; I certainly will use your sentence some place on the website. > > Anyway I put in Fernando's sentence - cannot argue with its merit. > > René. > > On Jun 10, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Tom Maynard wrote: > >> On 6/10/2011 11:18 AM, René Jansen wrote: >>> About 'the granddaddy'...Let us all have a think on the correct way to express this point. >>> >> How about "the newest implementation of one of the earliest scripting languages, now available for the JVM" -- or words to that effect? >> >> Tom. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >> [hidden email] >> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > -- Thomas Schneider (www.thsitc.com) _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
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Alan you need a faster keyboard. _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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