Intergration of NetRexxScript with NrxServ

[Thomas.Schneider.Wien]

Hello Kermit,
   are you in contact with Rene Vincent Jansen to integrate his NrxServ
(the NetRexx Compiler Server)
with your NetRexxScript ?
   It would be nice to have a 'common appearance' of all the various
tools available.

.. and a common IDE for all of them....

After my first tries, both JEdit and NetRexxScript seem to be a GOOD
Starter point!

Rene, what is your are your opinions?
Tom.

 

[David Requena]

Thomas,

I don't know how netrexxscript works internally but netrexxje loads a
compiler process on first compilation and
keeps it loaded for re-utilization on further compilations. This renders
nrxserv pretty much unnecessary for local builds.

That said, I plan on a future integration with nrxserv for settings dev
teams using continuous integration whith
nightly builds at a centralized machine, etc.. Given the present rudimentary
status of netrexxje that would be a
very much ambitious goal, so it remains at the bottom levels of the stack
for now..

2010/1/27 Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]>

> Hello Kermit,
>  are you in contact with Rene Vincent Jansen to integrate his NrxServ (the
> NetRexx Compiler Server)
> with your NetRexxScript ?
>  It would be nice to have a 'common appearance' of all the various tools
> available.
>
> .. and a common IDE for all of them....
>
> After my first tries, both JEdit and NetRexxScript seem to be a GOOD
> Starter point!
>
> Rene, what is your are your opinions?
> Tom.
>
>
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>
>

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Saludos / Regards,
David Requena
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[Kermit Kiser]

Thomas ;

I do not think that NrxServ and NetRexxScript would fit together. One is
a compiler server and one is an interpreter server. I think they use
completely different interfaces in Mike's compiler/interpreter code.
While NetRexxScript and NetRexx scripting in general can be improved, I
think it is best to wait for the open source NetRexx so that we can see
how to implement parallel interpreter instances and in-memory parsing
without intermediate files, etc. Also, NetRexxJe may already use similar
techniques to NrxServ for compiling in jEdit - David Requena would know
more about that.

-- Kermit

Thomas Schneider wrote:

> Hello Kermit,
>   are you in contact with Rene Vincent Jansen to integrate his NrxServ
> (the NetRexx Compiler Server)
> with your NetRexxScript ?
>   It would be nice to have a 'common appearance' of all the various
> tools available.
>
> .. and a common IDE for all of them....
>
> After my first tries, both JEdit and NetRexxScript seem to be a GOOD
> Starter point!
>
> Rene, what is your are your opinions?
> Tom.
>
>
>
>

[Thomas.Schneider.Wien]

Kermit, agreed!

Let us wait until Rene Vincent Jansen either responds or finishes the
OPEN SOURCE
NetRexx release....

Tom.

=======================
Kermit Kiser schrieb:

> Thomas ;
>
> I do not think that NrxServ and NetRexxScript would fit together. One
> is a compiler server and one is an interpreter server. I think they
> use completely different interfaces in Mike's compiler/interpreter
> code. While NetRexxScript and NetRexx scripting in general can be
> improved, I think it is best to wait for the open source NetRexx so
> that we can see how to implement parallel interpreter instances and
> in-memory parsing without intermediate files, etc. Also, NetRexxJe may
> already use similar techniques to NrxServ for compiling in jEdit -
> David Requena would know more about that.
>
> -- Kermit
>
> Thomas Schneider wrote:
>> Hello Kermit,
>>   are you in contact with Rene Vincent Jansen to integrate his
>> NrxServ (the NetRexx Compiler Server)
>> with your NetRexxScript ?
>>   It would be nice to have a 'common appearance' of all the various
>> tools available.
>>
>> .. and a common IDE for all of them....
>>
>> After my first tries, both JEdit and NetRexxScript seem to be a GOOD
>> Starter point!
>>
>> Rene, what is your are your opinions?
>> Tom.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

[David Requena]

Tom and Kermit,

Don't hold your bread on this. I've the feeling that IBM is a very
slow behemoth and things move along very slowly inside.
Besides it does not seem any one inside IBM is pushing strongly to get this
done. I got the impression is more a question of 'as real workoad
permits'...

sigh...

2010/1/28 Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]>

> Kermit, agreed!
>
> Let us wait until Rene Vincent Jansen either responds or finishes the OPEN
> SOURCE
> NetRexx release....
>
> Tom.
>
> =======================
> Kermit Kiser schrieb:
>
>  Thomas ;
>>
>> I do not think that NrxServ and NetRexxScript would fit together. One is a
>> compiler server and one is an interpreter server. I think they use
>> completely different interfaces in Mike's compiler/interpreter code. While
>> NetRexxScript and NetRexx scripting in general can be improved, I think it
>> is best to wait for the open source NetRexx so that we can see how to
>> implement parallel interpreter instances and in-memory parsing without
>> intermediate files, etc. Also, NetRexxJe may already use similar techniques
>> to NrxServ for compiling in jEdit - David Requena would know more about
>> that.
>>
>> -- Kermit
>>
>> Thomas Schneider wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Kermit,
>>>  are you in contact with Rene Vincent Jansen to integrate his NrxServ
>>> (the NetRexx Compiler Server)
>>> with your NetRexxScript ?
>>>  It would be nice to have a 'common appearance' of all the various tools
>>> available.
>>>
>>> .. and a common IDE for all of them....
>>>
>>> After my first tries, both JEdit and NetRexxScript seem to be a GOOD
>>> Starter point!
>>>
>>> Rene, what is your are your opinions?
>>> Tom.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
>

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Saludos / Regards,
David Requena
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[rvjansen]

It is always unwise to hold your breath for too long. I know the feeling - believe me - my name was in the official open source proposal for Object Rexx, but for some reason I was not on the 'transition team'  that received the source code drop. This took years, at least it felt like that. I can assure you that this will not be the case for NetRexx - if all is official, it will be out there more or less the same minute - because all the work on the source has been done already.

Just hang in there for some more - I know it has been long.

best regards,

Ren? Jansen.

On 3 feb 2010, at 00:03, David Requena wrote:

> Tom and Kermit,
>
> Don't hold your bread on this. I've the feeling that IBM is a very slow behemoth and things move along very slowly inside.
> Besides it does not seem any one inside IBM is pushing strongly to get this done. I got the impression is more a question of 'as real workoad permits'...
>
> sigh...
>
> 2010/1/28 Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]>
> Kermit, agreed!
>
> Let us wait until Rene Vincent Jansen either responds or finishes the OPEN SOURCE
> NetRexx release....
>
> Tom.
>
> =======================
> Kermit Kiser schrieb:
>
> Thomas ;
>
> I do not think that NrxServ and NetRexxScript would fit together. One is a compiler server and one is an interpreter server. I think they use completely different interfaces in Mike's compiler/interpreter code. While NetRexxScript and NetRexx scripting in general can be improved, I think it is best to wait for the open source NetRexx so that we can see how to implement parallel interpreter instances and in-memory parsing without intermediate files, etc. Also, NetRexxJe may already use similar techniques to NrxServ for compiling in jEdit - David Requena would know more about that.
>
> -- Kermit
>
> Thomas Schneider wrote:
> Hello Kermit,
>  are you in contact with Rene Vincent Jansen to integrate his NrxServ (the NetRexx Compiler Server)
> with your NetRexxScript ?
>  It would be nice to have a 'common appearance' of all the various tools available.
>
> .. and a common IDE for all of them....
>
> After my first tries, both JEdit and NetRexxScript seem to be a GOOD Starter point!
>
> Rene, what is your are your opinions?
> Tom.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
> [hidden email]
>
>
>
>
> --
> Saludos / Regards,
> David Requena
>
> _______________________________________________
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[David Requena]

Ren?,

Many thanks for the update. Of course we'll hang in the wait, breathing
regularly all the way long ;-)

By the way, thanks for not laughing at my statement about 'holding bread'. I
definitely shouldn't be working that late at night...

Cheers,
David

2010/2/3 Ren? Jansen <[hidden email]>

> It is always unwise to hold your breath for too long. I know the feeling -
> believe me - my name was in the official open source proposal for Object
> Rexx, but for some reason I was not on the 'transition team'  that received
> the source code drop. This took years, at least it felt like that. I can
> assure you that this will not be the case for NetRexx - if all is official,
> it will be out there more or less the same minute - because all the work on
> the source has been done already.
>
> Just hang in there for some more - I know it has been long.
>
> best regards,
>
> Ren? Jansen.
>
> On 3 feb 2010, at 00:03, David Requena wrote:
>
> Tom and Kermit,
>
> Don't hold your bread on this. I've the feeling that IBM is a very
> slow behemoth and things move along very slowly inside.
> Besides it does not seem any one inside IBM is pushing strongly to get this
> done. I got the impression is more a question of 'as real workoad
> permits'...
>
> sigh...
>
> 2010/1/28 Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]>
>
>> Kermit, agreed!
>>
>> Let us wait until Rene Vincent Jansen either responds or finishes the OPEN
>> SOURCE
>> NetRexx release....
>>
>> Tom.
>>
>> =======================
>> Kermit Kiser schrieb:
>>
>>  Thomas ;
>>>
>>> I do not think that NrxServ and NetRexxScript would fit together. One is
>>> a compiler server and one is an interpreter server. I think they use
>>> completely different interfaces in Mike's compiler/interpreter code. While
>>> NetRexxScript and NetRexx scripting in general can be improved, I think it
>>> is best to wait for the open source NetRexx so that we can see how to
>>> implement parallel interpreter instances and in-memory parsing without
>>> intermediate files, etc. Also, NetRexxJe may already use similar techniques
>>> to NrxServ for compiling in jEdit - David Requena would know more about
>>> that.
>>>
>>> -- Kermit
>>>
>>> Thomas Schneider wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Kermit,
>>>>  are you in contact with Rene Vincent Jansen to integrate his NrxServ
>>>> (the NetRexx Compiler Server)
>>>> with your NetRexxScript ?
>>>>  It would be nice to have a 'common appearance' of all the various tools
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> .. and a common IDE for all of them....
>>>>
>>>> After my first tries, both JEdit and NetRexxScript seem to be a GOOD
>>>> Starter point!
>>>>
>>>> Rene, what is your are your opinions?
>>>> Tom.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Saludos / Regards,
> David Requena
>
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>
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