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1.) Good to hear that you are still ALIVE! 2.) Don't know anything about IBM Policies, but of GEISCO's ones (20 years ago): GEISCO has been General Electric Information Services, marketing the MARK I, II, then Mark IIII Time-Sharing Services, 40 years ago, and what we did (I've been the System's Consultant and Developer's Manager there) was very simple: -- you ought to bring up our company revenue -- what you do, is YOUR decision -- when you do NOT bring up the revenue expected, you can leave us. -- when YOU Contibute, you get a fair share !!! As thus, I did AUTHOR a couple of systems, at GEISCO's MARK III Service, used WORLDWIDE, like EURO:ARCHIV, EURO:LOGOS, etc etc. What we did have at this time: FUN (and CASH) by WORKING TOGETHER (worldwide: we did have X-File (nowadays called e-mail) back in 1967!!!) 3.) Now, GEISCO has retired (they forgot about the INTERNET), and You are retired as well, and IBM did forget te power of NetRexx (as they did BUY RATIONAL ROSE).... :-( 4.) I'm also (formally) retired, but running a new, expanding Company, here in Vienna 5.) as GEISCO did pay me 2 manager trainings, 5 sales trainings, and I myself did train some 200 new GEISCO-employees in computer programming and database technologies in Austria, Germany, Switzerland, the NetherLands, and the UK, as well ... ... I'm a living DINOSAURIER :-) Your advise how to implement NetRexx at the AS/400 will be, nevertheless, welcome, of course. *** END of my STORY *** Have a nice week! Massa Thomas. ============================================================= Am 13.09.2011 17:50, schrieb Mike Cowlishaw: > >> IBM has always been fussy (rightfully so) about copyrights - >> I remember many years ago when they mandated to us >> programmers that the readable IBM copyright had to occur >> within the first 3 lines of any dump listing (that was in the >> keypunch and 1403 printer days, well before terminals and >> modern debugging techniques). > This is one of the battles I fought and won many years (decades) ago [along with > commentary in mixed case]. It is no longer required (especially since most > binaries not generated by IBM compilers -- such as Java .class files -- simply > don't have the option to do this). > >> Adding the copyright as human readable within an executable >> has always been a requirement and common IBM practice as far >> as I know. > Just not true anymore. I tended to do it by default (put in an unused static > constant with a spurious use to stop compiler errors, typically) -- but if doing > it was impossible without errors then I left it out. > >> The idea is that the file is clearly copyrighted >> without having to be executed. Providing an execution time >> message is to indicate that the file contains a copyright. >> My understand is that the copyright applies primarily to the >> file, not it's execution behavior (as in copy-right or >> right-to-copy the physical file content), but IANAL. Having >> an execution time message without an obvious, readable >> copyright statement is not enough, in my opinion. > The USA has been a signatory to the Berne Convention for 22 years .. all that > nonsense has been irrelevant since then. All works are copyright whether stated > or not. > >> You might ask IBM if their policy has changed on that point. > I think that would be wasting their time. And RexxLA's. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > -- Thomas Schneider (Founder of www.thsitc.com) Member of the Rexx Languge Asscociation (www.rexxla.org) Member of the NetRexx Developer's Team (www.netrexx.org) _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
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> By the way, Rene: > > WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. -Bgho- _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would
*not* tell this community, what a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review Board) ?? b) WHO the member's are c) What there mission is d) etc etc, *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or anywhere elsewhere, *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! *Trust me* and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO CROSS-Posting anymore.. But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open Object Rexx, NetRexx) .... ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) Sorry I did reply.... Massa Thomas. Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: > On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: >> By the way, Rene: >> >> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? > > If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. > > -Bgho- > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > -- Thomas Schneider (Founder of www.thsitc.com) Member of the Rexx Languge Asscociation (www.rexxla.org) Member of the NetRexx Developer's Team (www.netrexx.org) _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
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Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my thing.
What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods in public? Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites full of religious symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it publishes no charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to volunteer. Just what is RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it justify its secrecy? I've asked repeatedly in the past without an answer. A little sunshine would go a long way. Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense to me, but that's the way it is. Bill On 9/13/2011 1:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: > When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would > > *not* tell this community, what > > a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review Board) ?? > b) WHO the member's are > c) What there mission is > d) etc etc, > > *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or anywhere > > *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen > > ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! > > *Trust me* > > and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO CROSS-Posting anymore.. > > But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION > structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open Object Rexx, > NetRexx) .... > > ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) > > Sorry I did reply.... > > Massa Thomas. > > > Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: >> On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: >>> By the way, Rene: >>> >>> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? >> >> If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. >> >> -Bgho- >> _______________________________________________ >> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >> [hidden email] >> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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> Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my thing. > And you promised not to tell! _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Am Dienstag, 13. September 2011, 20:50:09 schrieben Sie: > Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my > thing. > > What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods in > public? Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites full of > religious symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? > > Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it > publishes no charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to > volunteer. Just what is RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it > justify its secrecy? I've asked repeatedly in the past without an > answer. A little sunshine would go a long way. > > Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense > to me, but that's the way it is. > > Bill
For "ARB" you may look at http://kenai.com/projects/netrexx/pages/NrxProjRoles
Don't know, who decides about membership, but just give them some time to open that process as well. At least now NetRexx is open source allows you, as anyone else, to fork, if you don't like the current direction.
no harm intended kp
> On 9/13/2011 1:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: > > When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would > > > > *not* tell this community, what > > > > a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review > > Board) ?? b) WHO the member's are > > c) What there mission is > > d) etc etc, > > > > *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or > > anywhere > > elsewhere, > > > *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen > > > > ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! > > > > *Trust me* > > > > and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO > > CROSS-Posting anymore.. > > > But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION > > structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open > > Object > > Rexx, > > > NetRexx) .... > > > > ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) > > > > Sorry I did reply.... > > > > Massa Thomas. > > > > Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: > >> On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: > >>> By the way, Rene: > >>> > >>> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? > >> > >> If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. > >> > >> -Bgho- > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Ibm-netrexx mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > - mail2web.com What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
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Am Dienstag, 13. September 2011, 21:05:32 schrieben Sie: > Am Dienstag, 13. September 2011, 20:50:09 schrieben Sie: > > Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my > > thing. > > > > What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods > > in public? Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites > > full of religious symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? > > > > Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it > > publishes no charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to > > volunteer. Just what is RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it > > justify its secrecy? I've asked repeatedly in the past without > > an answer. A little sunshine would go a long way. > > > > Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense > > to me, but that's the way it is. > > > > Bill > > For "ARB" you may look at > http://kenai.com/projects/netrexx/pages/NrxProjRoles > > Don't know, who decides about membership, but just give them some > time to open that process as well. > At least now NetRexx is open source allows you, as anyone else, to > fork, if you don't like the current direction. > > no harm intended > kp
And to respond myself: while the ARB is "under review", I guess you have a good chance to become a member of it, if you ash for it and volunteer to swallow the workload for two reasons: You are not an RexxLA member - reduces secrecy You have a good knowledge how to deal with NetRexx by you're welcomed Eclipse plugin project.
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Looking at RexxLA's web site where there are sections that have said
"under construction" for years now and most of the NetRexx links still point to the obsolete IBM site, I suspect that there is no conspiracy involved. It seems to me that no Rexx people want to do administrivia nor have the time. But even though it took a decade, RexxLA did manage to finally get NetRexx open sourced, giving me hope for the future of programming so I am not giving up on them. They just move a little slow at times! -- Kermit On 9/13/2011 11:50 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my thing. > > What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods in public? > Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites full of religious > symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? > > Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it publishes no > charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to volunteer. Just what is > RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it justify its secrecy? I've asked > repeatedly in the past without an answer. A little sunshine would go a > long way. > > Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense to me, > but that's the way it is. > > Bill > > On 9/13/2011 1:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: >> When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would >> >> *not* tell this community, what >> >> a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review Board) ?? >> b) WHO the member's are >> c) What there mission is >> d) etc etc, >> >> *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or anywhere > elsewhere, >> *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen >> >> ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! >> >> *Trust me* >> >> and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO > CROSS-Posting anymore.. >> But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION >> structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open Object > Rexx, >> NetRexx) .... >> >> ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) >> >> Sorry I did reply.... >> >> Massa Thomas. >> >> >> Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: >>> On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: >>>> By the way, Rene: >>>> >>>> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? >>> If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. >>> >>> -Bgho- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Bill, Thomas,
Please, have a look at the project's wiki at Kenai. Particularly the pages titled 'Development process', 'Project charter' and 'Current Project Roles' should be of your interest. All this info has always been public. On the other hand I happen to be a RexxLA member since I think is 3 years now. I that time I've never become privy of any info about NetRexx, its open sourcing process or any other "insider info". There wasn't any insider info there. I've been known to speculate about an hypothetical NDA shutting involved individuals' lips even to the point of forbidding them to confirm such NDA existence. To this day I've not been able to confirm or refute that, RexxLA member or not. Please, stop bickering the RexxLA. One day I shelled out 24 bucks out of curiosity, liked it there, and stayed. Of course no one is forced in. Also, no one looses anything NetRexx by staying out. PD: Tried several times to watch "Eyes wide shut" but never succeeded even being a Kubrick fan. Heck, I guess masks and hoods are not my thing. - Saludos / Kind regards, David Requena NOTE: The opinions expressed here represent the opinions of the authors and do not necessarily represent the opinions of those who hold other opinions. -----Original Message----- From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sender: [hidden email] Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:50:09 To: <[hidden email]> Reply-To: [hidden email], IBM Netrexx <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] RC1 License file Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my thing. What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods in public? Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites full of religious symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it publishes no charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to volunteer. Just what is RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it justify its secrecy? I've asked repeatedly in the past without an answer. A little sunshine would go a long way. Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense to me, but that's the way it is. Bill On 9/13/2011 1:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: > When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would > > *not* tell this community, what > > a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review Board) ?? > b) WHO the member's are > c) What there mission is > d) etc etc, > > *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or anywhere > > *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen > > ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! > > *Trust me* > > and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO CROSS-Posting anymore.. > > But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION > structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open Object Rexx, > NetRexx) .... > > ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) > > Sorry I did reply.... > > Massa Thomas. > > > Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: >> On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: >>> By the way, Rene: >>> >>> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? >> >> If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. >> >> -Bgho- >> _______________________________________________ >> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >> [hidden email] >> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Whatever I can help ...
.... let me know ! Thomas. Am 13.09.2011 21:23, schrieb Kermit Kiser: > Looking at RexxLA's web site where there are sections that have said > "under construction" for years now and most of the NetRexx links still > point to the obsolete IBM site, I suspect that there is no conspiracy > involved. It seems to me that no Rexx people want to do administrivia > nor have the time. But even though it took a decade, RexxLA did manage > to finally get NetRexx open sourced, giving me hope for the future of > programming so I am not giving up on them. They just move a little > slow at times! > > -- Kermit > > On 9/13/2011 11:50 AM, [hidden email] wrote: >> Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my thing. >> >> What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods in >> public? >> Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites full of religious >> symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? >> >> Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it >> publishes no >> charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to volunteer. Just what is >> RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it justify its secrecy? I've asked >> repeatedly in the past without an answer. A little sunshine would go a >> long way. >> >> Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense to me, >> but that's the way it is. >> >> Bill >> >> On 9/13/2011 1:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: >>> When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would >>> >>> *not* tell this community, what >>> >>> a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review Board) ?? >>> b) WHO the member's are >>> c) What there mission is >>> d) etc etc, >>> >>> *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or anywhere >> elsewhere, >>> *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen >>> >>> ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! >>> >>> *Trust me* >>> >>> and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO >> CROSS-Posting anymore.. >>> But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION >>> structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open Object >> Rexx, >>> NetRexx) .... >>> >>> ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) >>> >>> Sorry I did reply.... >>> >>> Massa Thomas. >>> >>> >>> Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: >>>> On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: >>>>> By the way, Rene: >>>>> >>>>> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? >>>> If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. >>>> >>>> -Bgho- >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? >> http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >> [hidden email] >> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > -- Thomas Schneider (Founder of www.thsitc.com) Member of the Rexx Languge Asscociation (www.rexxla.org) Member of the NetRexx Developer's Team (www.netrexx.org) _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
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Hi David,
*and all* Solving KUBRICK's game is very easy: You only have to *Brake the CUBE* (1,2,3,4,5,6, ... times) *LOOK INSIDE* (what he has constructed) and then ... ... suddenly, you understand his construction, and the game, as well! Thomas. ================================================= Am 13.09.2011 21:25, schrieb David Requena: > Bill, Thomas, > > Please, have a look at the project's wiki at Kenai. Particularly the pages titled 'Development process', 'Project charter' and 'Current Project Roles' should be of your interest. > > All this info has always been public. > > On the other hand I happen to be a RexxLA member since I think is 3 years now. I that time I've never become privy of any info about NetRexx, its open sourcing process or any other "insider info". There wasn't any insider info there. > > I've been known to speculate about an hypothetical NDA shutting involved individuals' lips even to the point of forbidding them to confirm such NDA existence. To this day I've not been able to confirm or refute that, RexxLA member or not. > > Please, stop bickering the RexxLA. One day I shelled out 24 bucks out of curiosity, liked it there, and stayed. Of course no one is forced in. Also, no one looses anything NetRexx by staying out. > > PD: Tried several times to watch "Eyes wide shut" but never succeeded even being a Kubrick fan. Heck, I guess masks and hoods are not my thing. > > > - > Saludos / Kind regards, > David Requena > > NOTE: The opinions expressed here represent the opinions > of the authors and do not necessarily represent the opinions > of those who hold other opinions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: "[hidden email]"<[hidden email]> > Sender: [hidden email] > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:50:09 > To:<[hidden email]> > Reply-To: [hidden email], IBM Netrexx<[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] RC1 License file > > Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my thing. > > What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods in public? > Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites full of religious > symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? > > Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it publishes no > charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to volunteer. Just what is > RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it justify its secrecy? I've asked > repeatedly in the past without an answer. A little sunshine would go a > long way. > > Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense to me, > but that's the way it is. > > Bill > > On 9/13/2011 1:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: >> When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would >> >> *not* tell this community, what >> >> a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review Board) ?? >> b) WHO the member's are >> c) What there mission is >> d) etc etc, >> >> *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or anywhere > elsewhere, >> *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen >> >> ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! >> >> *Trust me* >> >> and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO > CROSS-Posting anymore.. >> But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION >> structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open Object > Rexx, >> NetRexx) .... >> >> ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) >> >> Sorry I did reply.... >> >> Massa Thomas. >> >> >> Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: >>> On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: >>>> By the way, Rene: >>>> >>>> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? >>> If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. >>> >>> -Bgho- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > -- Thomas Schneider (Founder of www.thsitc.com) Member of the Rexx Languge Asscociation (www.rexxla.org) Member of the NetRexx Developer's Team (www.netrexx.org) _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
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Thanks David.
It is probably time we all met in person. If we were to organize a Rexx Language Symposium in December on Aruba, who would come? It needs to be on the US side of the world, we had two successive symposia in Europe already, and the only place I can organize it would be there. best regards, René. On 13 sep. 2011, at 21:25, David Requena wrote: > Bill, Thomas, > > Please, have a look at the project's wiki at Kenai. Particularly the pages titled 'Development process', 'Project charter' and 'Current Project Roles' should be of your interest. > > All this info has always been public. > > On the other hand I happen to be a RexxLA member since I think is 3 years now. I that time I've never become privy of any info about NetRexx, its open sourcing process or any other "insider info". There wasn't any insider info there. > > I've been known to speculate about an hypothetical NDA shutting involved individuals' lips even to the point of forbidding them to confirm such NDA existence. To this day I've not been able to confirm or refute that, RexxLA member or not. > > Please, stop bickering the RexxLA. One day I shelled out 24 bucks out of curiosity, liked it there, and stayed. Of course no one is forced in. Also, no one looses anything NetRexx by staying out. > > PD: Tried several times to watch "Eyes wide shut" but never succeeded even being a Kubrick fan. Heck, I guess masks and hoods are not my thing. > > > - > Saludos / Kind regards, > David Requena > > NOTE: The opinions expressed here represent the opinions > of the authors and do not necessarily represent the opinions > of those who hold other opinions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > Sender: [hidden email] > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:50:09 > To: <[hidden email]> > Reply-To: [hidden email], IBM Netrexx <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] RC1 License file > > Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my thing. > > What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods in public? > Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites full of religious > symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? > > Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it publishes no > charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to volunteer. Just what is > RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it justify its secrecy? I've asked > repeatedly in the past without an answer. A little sunshine would go a > long way. > > Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense to me, > but that's the way it is. > > Bill > > On 9/13/2011 1:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: >> When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would >> >> *not* tell this community, what >> >> a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review Board) ?? >> b) WHO the member's are >> c) What there mission is >> d) etc etc, >> >> *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or anywhere > elsewhere, >> >> *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen >> >> ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! >> >> *Trust me* >> >> and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO > CROSS-Posting anymore.. >> >> But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION >> structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open Object > Rexx, >> NetRexx) .... >> >> ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) >> >> Sorry I did reply.... >> >> Massa Thomas. >> >> >> Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: >>> On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: >>>> By the way, Rene: >>>> >>>> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? >>> >>> If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. >>> >>> -Bgho- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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Thomas,
before you get too excited: http://kenai.com/projects/netrexx/pages/NrxProjRoles and has been there almost since the open sourcing. best regards, René. On 12 sep. 2011, at 16:27, Thomas Schneider wrote: > By the way, Rene: > > WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? > > It might be now the right time to *publish this* !!! > > Greetings, > Thomas Schneider. > ======================================================== > Am 12.09.2011 14:33, schrieb Chip Davis: >> On 9/12/11 10:54 René Jansen said: >>> On 12 sep. 2011, at 12:37, René Jansen wrote: >>>> an anonymous decision >>> >>> and I wish we could make those, but /unanimous/ would probably be better here. >> >> :-)) >> >> But as long as no one knows how the members of the ARB vote, it's anonymous as far as I'm concerned. ;-) >> >> ?Dijq? >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >> [hidden email] >> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ >> >> > > > -- > Thomas Schneider (Founder of www.thsitc.com) Member of the Rexx Languge Asscociation (www.rexxla.org) Member of the NetRexx Developer's Team (www.netrexx.org) > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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In reply to this post by Kermit Kiser
Kermit,
thanks - you are right. The only conspiracy that I suspect to be there is the one that never leaves me with any free time. Apart from the open sourcing taking a decade. Maybe we wanted this to happen for more than a decade, but as I remember it, the first serious talks between Mike and me about this were during the 2007 symposium, and it was formally announced at the 2008 Symposium - over Skype because I could not be there. Later that year I announced it outside of RexxLA to the JVM Languages Summit in Santa Clara. It took quite some time after that, but not anywhere near a decade - it was more like a bit more than 3 years. But all's well that ends well, I think. best regards, René. On 13 sep. 2011, at 21:23, Kermit Kiser wrote: > Looking at RexxLA's web site where there are sections that have said "under construction" for years now and most of the NetRexx links still point to the obsolete IBM site, I suspect that there is no conspiracy involved. It seems to me that no Rexx people want to do administrivia nor have the time. But even though it took a decade, RexxLA did manage to finally get NetRexx open sourced, giving me hope for the future of programming so I am not giving up on them. They just move a little slow at times! > > -- Kermit > > On 9/13/2011 11:50 AM, [hidden email] wrote: >> Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my thing. >> >> What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods in public? >> Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites full of religious >> symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? >> >> Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it publishes no >> charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to volunteer. Just what is >> RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it justify its secrecy? I've asked >> repeatedly in the past without an answer. A little sunshine would go a >> long way. >> >> Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense to me, >> but that's the way it is. >> >> Bill >> >> On 9/13/2011 1:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: >>> When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would >>> >>> *not* tell this community, what >>> >>> a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review Board) ?? >>> b) WHO the member's are >>> c) What there mission is >>> d) etc etc, >>> >>> *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or anywhere >> elsewhere, >>> *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen >>> >>> ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! >>> >>> *Trust me* >>> >>> and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO >> CROSS-Posting anymore.. >>> But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION >>> structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open Object >> Rexx, >>> NetRexx) .... >>> >>> ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) >>> >>> Sorry I did reply.... >>> >>> Massa Thomas. >>> >>> >>> Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: >>>> On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: >>>>> By the way, Rene: >>>>> >>>>> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? >>>> If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. >>>> >>>> -Bgho- >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? >> http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >> [hidden email] >> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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In reply to this post by billfen
Bill,
really. Posts like this make me wonder sometimes what I am missing. best regards, René Jansen. On 13 sep. 2011, at 20:50, [hidden email] wrote: > Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my thing. > > What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods in public? > Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites full of religious > symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? > > Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it publishes no > charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to volunteer. Just what is > RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it justify its secrecy? I've asked > repeatedly in the past without an answer. A little sunshine would go a > long way. > > Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense to me, > but that's the way it is. > > Bill > > On 9/13/2011 1:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: >> When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would >> >> *not* tell this community, what >> >> a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review Board) ?? >> b) WHO the member's are >> c) What there mission is >> d) etc etc, >> >> *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or anywhere > elsewhere, >> >> *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen >> >> ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! >> >> *Trust me* >> >> and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO > CROSS-Posting anymore.. >> >> But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION >> structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open Object > Rexx, >> NetRexx) .... >> >> ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) >> >> Sorry I did reply.... >> >> Massa Thomas. >> >> >> Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: >>> On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: >>>> By the way, Rene: >>>> >>>> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? >>> >>> If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. >>> >>> -Bgho- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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In regards to the command line parser.... Why can't we just leave NetRexx as it is. Yeah, update it, as needed, to mesh smoothly with java sdk's... but leave it as it is, small, tight and original. And all these recommended changes and additions, just be out into a separate jar, perhaps can it NetRexxUtils.jar. And put any and all new changes, tweaks, candy and other BS into it. Keep it out of the original, reference version of NetRexx. Makes good sense to me. _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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ROTFL
Thomas, I don't really know if it was intended but that stunt was just hilarious !! Thanks for a good laugh X'DDD - Saludos / Kind regards, David Requena NOTE: The opinions expressed here represent the opinions of the authors and do not necessarily represent the opinions of those who hold other opinions. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Schneider <[hidden email]> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:12:19 To: <[hidden email]>; IBM Netrexx<[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] RC1 License file Hi David, *and all* Solving KUBRICK's game is very easy: You only have to *Brake the CUBE* (1,2,3,4,5,6, ... times) *LOOK INSIDE* (what he has constructed) and then ... ... suddenly, you understand his construction, and the game, as well! Thomas. ================================================= Am 13.09.2011 21:25, schrieb David Requena: > Bill, Thomas, > > Please, have a look at the project's wiki at Kenai. Particularly the pages titled 'Development process', 'Project charter' and 'Current Project Roles' should be of your interest. > > All this info has always been public. > > On the other hand I happen to be a RexxLA member since I think is 3 years now. I that time I've never become privy of any info about NetRexx, its open sourcing process or any other "insider info". There wasn't any insider info there. > > I've been known to speculate about an hypothetical NDA shutting involved individuals' lips even to the point of forbidding them to confirm such NDA existence. To this day I've not been able to confirm or refute that, RexxLA member or not. > > Please, stop bickering the RexxLA. One day I shelled out 24 bucks out of curiosity, liked it there, and stayed. Of course no one is forced in. Also, no one looses anything NetRexx by staying out. > > PD: Tried several times to watch "Eyes wide shut" but never succeeded even being a Kubrick fan. Heck, I guess masks and hoods are not my thing. > > > - > Saludos / Kind regards, > David Requena > > NOTE: The opinions expressed here represent the opinions > of the authors and do not necessarily represent the opinions > of those who hold other opinions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: "[hidden email]"<[hidden email]> > Sender: [hidden email] > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:50:09 > To:<[hidden email]> > Reply-To: [hidden email], IBM Netrexx<[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Ibm-netrexx] RC1 License file > > Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my thing. > > What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods in public? > Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites full of religious > symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? > > Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it publishes no > charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to volunteer. Just what is > RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it justify its secrecy? I've asked > repeatedly in the past without an answer. A little sunshine would go a > long way. > > Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense to me, > but that's the way it is. > > Bill > > On 9/13/2011 1:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: >> When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would >> >> *not* tell this community, what >> >> a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review Board) ?? >> b) WHO the member's are >> c) What there mission is >> d) etc etc, >> >> *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or anywhere > elsewhere, >> *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen >> >> ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! >> >> *Trust me* >> >> and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO > CROSS-Posting anymore.. >> But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION >> structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open Object > Rexx, >> NetRexx) .... >> >> ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) >> >> Sorry I did reply.... >> >> Massa Thomas. >> >> >> Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: >>> On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: >>>> By the way, Rene: >>>> >>>> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? >>> If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. >>> >>> -Bgho- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > -- Thomas Schneider (Founder of www.thsitc.com) Member of the Rexx Languge Asscociation (www.rexxla.org) Member of the NetRexx Developer's Team (www.netrexx.org) _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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... Updated 55 minutes ago, by Rene Vincent Jansen !!!
Thanks, Rene, by the way. I promise you I'll now go back to work, as usual! Sincerely, yours all, Thomas Schneider. =================================================== Am 13.09.2011 23:36, schrieb René Jansen: > Thomas, > > before you get too excited: http://kenai.com/projects/netrexx/pages/NrxProjRoles > and has been there almost since the open sourcing. > > best regards, > > René. > > On 12 sep. 2011, at 16:27, Thomas Schneider wrote: > >> By the way, Rene: >> >> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? >> >> It might be now the right time to *publish this* !!! >> >> Greetings, >> Thomas Schneider. >> ======================================================== >> Am 12.09.2011 14:33, schrieb Chip Davis: >>> On 9/12/11 10:54 René Jansen said: >>>> On 12 sep. 2011, at 12:37, René Jansen wrote: >>>>> an anonymous decision >>>> and I wish we could make those, but /unanimous/ would probably be better here. >>> :-)) >>> >>> But as long as no one knows how the members of the ARB vote, it's anonymous as far as I'm concerned. ;-) >>> >>> ?Dijq? >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Thomas Schneider (Founder of www.thsitc.com) Member of the Rexx Languge Asscociation (www.rexxla.org) Member of the NetRexx Developer's Team (www.netrexx.org) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >> [hidden email] >> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > -- Thomas Schneider (Founder of www.thsitc.com) Member of the Rexx Languge Asscociation (www.rexxla.org) Member of the NetRexx Developer's Team (www.netrexx.org) _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/
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KP,
Thanks for the pointer to the composition of the ARB. I never knew whether it was secret or I'd missed a posting and, since I haven't coughed up $24, hadn't the right to ask. Whatever the nature of the appointment process, I can't fault the result! George On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:05 PM, KP Kirchdoerfer <[hidden email]> wrote:
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René --
You are no doubt correct technically but some of us knew from the start that NetRexx had no future guaranteed until it was open source. There has been little maintenance and no new development for a decade. (Fortunately, NetRexx was quite robust from the start due to Mike's ingenious work.) IBM still has no clue what a gem they almost killed. That decade is how long I, personally, have been waiting! I did not mean to imply that RexxLA was working on it for all that time. -- Kermit On 9/13/2011 2:57 PM, René Jansen wrote: > Kermit, > > thanks - you are right. The only conspiracy that I suspect to be there is the one that never leaves me with any free time. > > Apart from the open sourcing taking a decade. Maybe we wanted this to happen for more than a decade, but as I remember it, the first serious talks between Mike and me about this were during the 2007 symposium, and it was formally announced at the 2008 Symposium - over Skype because I could not be there. Later that year I announced it outside of RexxLA to the JVM Languages Summit in Santa Clara. It took quite some time after that, but not anywhere near a decade - it was more like a bit more than 3 years. > > But all's well that ends well, I think. > > best regards, > > René. > > > On 13 sep. 2011, at 21:23, Kermit Kiser wrote: > >> Looking at RexxLA's web site where there are sections that have said "under construction" for years now and most of the NetRexx links still point to the obsolete IBM site, I suspect that there is no conspiracy involved. It seems to me that no Rexx people want to do administrivia nor have the time. But even though it took a decade, RexxLA did manage to finally get NetRexx open sourced, giving me hope for the future of programming so I am not giving up on them. They just move a little slow at times! >> >> -- Kermit >> >> On 9/13/2011 11:50 AM, [hidden email] wrote: >>> Exactly why I refuse to join RexxLA - secret societies are not my thing. >>> >>> What's involved, sophomoric secret handshakes and masks or hoods in public? >>> Gang colors and graffiti? Secret initiation rites full of religious >>> symbolism, rituals, torture and death threats? >>> >>> Seriously, RexxLA claims to be a volunteer organization but it publishes no >>> charter or bylaws, and you have to pay dues to volunteer. Just what is >>> RexxLA trying to hide, and how does it justify its secrecy? I've asked >>> repeatedly in the past without an answer. A little sunshine would go a >>> long way. >>> >>> Having open source managed by a secret society doesn't make sense to me, >>> but that's the way it is. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> On 9/13/2011 1:20 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote: >>>> When Mr. Rene Vincent Jansen, President of REXXLA, would >>>> >>>> *not* tell this community, what >>>> >>>> a) the ARB is (personaly assumption: The Architecture Review Board) ?? >>>> b) WHO the member's are >>>> c) What there mission is >>>> d) etc etc, >>>> >>>> *I will*, at the next REXXLA meeting, may it be in Vienna or anywhere >>> elsewhere, >>>> *ASK* my friend Rene Vincent Jansen >>>> >>>> ** some VERY HARD QUESTIONS ** !! >>>> >>>> *Trust me* >>>> >>>> and I'm cross-posting this to REXXLA, also I've promised to do NO >>> CROSS-Posting anymore.. >>>> But I do personally think that we must have an OPEN DISCUSSION >>>> structure with the same entities (may it be classic Rexx, Open Object >>> Rexx, >>>> NetRexx) .... >>>> >>>> ... or Rey (how I do personally call their antecestor's) >>>> >>>> Sorry I did reply.... >>>> >>>> Massa Thomas. >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 13.09.2011 18:36, schrieb Chip Davis: >>>>> On 9/12/11 14:27 Thomas Schneider said: >>>>>> By the way, Rene: >>>>>> >>>>>> WHO *are* the member's of the ARB? >>>>> If he tells you, Thomas, they won't be anonymous any more. >>>>> >>>>> -Bgho- >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? >>> http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ibm-netrexx mailing list >> [hidden email] >> Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ibm-netrexx mailing list > [hidden email] > Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ Ibm-netrexx mailing list [hidden email] Online Archive : http://ibm-netrexx.215625.n3.nabble.com/ |
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