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Patric Bechtel
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:10:53 +0100, [hidden email] wrote:

Hallo Thomas, hello Mike,

I second that. We have four employees learning NetRexx at the moment, so
while going through with them it wouldn't be too much effort to correct
and clearify things a bit...
How did you write the current docs? Sat Srivastava has made a Windows .chm
and a JavaHelp version of the docs; I would love to have these output
options, still; it's a nice online help version with index search and
such...

Patric

>Hello Mike,
>   is the source of those doc's available online so that we can update it to
>the current state of the art ??

>  I've found some other small points as well, but did simply 'circumvent'
>them  to get my stuff running....
>
>But NOW there might be a good time to update doc's ( I still have heavy
>usage on www.Rexxx2Nrx.com after you did announce it's free on your REXX
>home page)

>Crazy, why do all people only use software which is free nowadays? ???.

>The good news are that Mr. Chip Davis, President of the REXX language
>association, gave
>Rexx2Nrx a whirl (as he is presenting Rexx2Nrx and Rony's BSF4REXX on the
>IBM SHARE symposium 26.2.2003 (wow!!)) and was the FIRST one who DID
>actually ask questions & provided info from testcases.....

>Hence Rexx2Nrx release 4.02 will be released this weekend....

>Kind regards from dark Vienna, Tom.  

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>> Von: Mike Cowlishaw [SMTP:[hidden email]]
>> Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 19. Februar 2003 17:26
>> An: Patric Bechtel
>> Cc: [hidden email]
>> Betreff: Re: Bug in docs...
>>
>>
>> >  just found a (small) bug in the documentation of NetRexx:
>> > in the section "Exception and error handling" in the
>> > quick start, the following code is shown:
>>
>> Quite right -- apologies.  The 'quick start' was written  before NetRexx
>> did strict exception checking, and as I always expected to rewrite that
>> document its examples never made it into the test suite.
>>
>> Amazing that no one else has reported this -- it's at least 5 years old...
>> :-(
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Re: AW: Bug in docs...

Patric Bechtel
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:22:32 +0000, Mike Cowlishaw wrote:

Hello Mike,

the docs are split into several parts, which is a bit confusing for
beginners. Regarding the possibilities of the select clause eg, makes
it complicated to estimate it's usage fully. Same for the if-comma-
syntax, which can be confusing.
The next thing is the options clause and visibility attributes for
classes, interfaces and such. Putting this quite (for a beginner)
complicated topic in several places is a bit hard.
So it would be nice incorporate the supplement into the core docs;
if I (or we, Thomas?) can help, tell us. Most of us work with one
or more flavours of *ML... it would be nice it Sat could keep his
Versions synced or even give the tools to generate them to you.

BTW: How much work would it be to get the loop over functionality
working on Collections?
Are you still advancing the interpreter engine to make it more usable
or was it a kind of technology demonstration?

Patric


>Your RuntimeException problem is the only bug I've had reported on the docs
>which isn't already corrected on the versions on the website.   If you have
>any more, please let me know!

>I will regenerate that document next time I am on a fast connection (the
>formatting for the PDF is done on a mainframe, so needs upload/download).

>The source for the documentation is GML, with a number of purpose-built
>tags (e.g., HTML-like table definitions), so would be difficult for anyone
>else to process.

>Mike


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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:30:10 +0000, Mike Cowlishaw wrote:

Hello Mike,

gulp. Does that man that Sat's nice JavaHelp version isn't allowed
to be distributed? As it is a "used in another form"?
I bought the book (and gifted it around :-)), btw, at least one thing
to do to give SOME of the credits to whom it belongs...
What about making an update, incorporating some more examples
and publishing an update of the book? Others do that, too.

Hm. Time constraints... you know my position on that topic. You
still do not like lawyers, do you? Me too, btw :-)

Patric


>> So it would be nice incorporate the supplement into the core docs.

>I agree, but the core doc is precisely the reference section from
>the Prentice-Hall book.  I don't have permission to use it in any
>other form at the moment.  Also some people have indicated that they
>like to be able to see the enhancements from the book, but they mostly
>just use what's in the book.

>On updates .. something I definitely want to get back to, but at
>the moment the decimal work is consuming rather more than my available
>bandwidth....

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Re: AW: Bug in docs...

Satguru Srivastava-2
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Hi,
Except for the free help compiler from Microsoft and Sun I am not using any other tools
Syncing up the help files  wouldn't be a big deal.
I will do so whenever the docs are updated.
Thanks
Sat
 


>>> "Patric Bechtel" <[hidden email]> 02/20/03 06:49AM >>>
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:22:32 +0000, Mike Cowlishaw wrote:

Hello Mike,

the docs are split into several parts, which is a bit confusing for
beginners. Regarding the possibilities of the select clause eg, makes
it complicated to estimate it's usage fully. Same for the if-comma-
syntax, which can be confusing.
The next thing is the options clause and visibility attributes for
classes, interfaces and such. Putting this quite (for a beginner)
complicated topic in several places is a bit hard.
So it would be nice incorporate the supplement into the core docs;
if I (or we, Thomas?) can help, tell us. Most of us work with one
or more flavours of *ML... it would be nice it Sat could keep his
Versions synced or even give the tools to generate them to you.

BTW: How much work would it be to get the loop over functionality
working on Collections?
Are you still advancing the interpreter engine to make it more usable
or was it a kind of technology demonstration?

Patric


>Your RuntimeException problem is the only bug I've had reported on the docs
>which isn't already corrected on the versions on the website.   If you have
>any more, please let me know!

>I will regenerate that document next time I am on a fast connection (the
>formatting for the PDF is done on a mainframe, so needs upload/download).

>The source for the documentation is GML, with a number of purpose-built
>tags (e.g., HTML-like table definitions), so would be difficult for anyone
>else to process.

>Mike


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Re: AW: Bug in docs...

Satguru P. Srivastava
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Hi,

Apart from the free help compiler from Microsoft and Sun I am not using
any tool.
Keeping the docs in sync shouldnot be a big deal.
I would do this whenever the docs are updated.

Thanks
Sat

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> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:22:32 +0000, Mike Cowlishaw wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> the docs are split into several parts, which is a bit confusing for
> beginners. Regarding the possibilities of the select clause eg, makes
> it complicated to estimate it's usage fully. Same for the if-comma-
> syntax, which can be confusing.
> The next thing is the options clause and visibility attributes for
> classes, interfaces and such. Putting this quite (for a beginner)
> complicated topic in several places is a bit hard.
> So it would be nice incorporate the supplement into the core docs;
> if I (or we, Thomas?) can help, tell us. Most of us work with one
> or more flavours of *ML... it would be nice it Sat could keep his
> Versions synced or even give the tools to generate them to you.
>
> BTW: How much work would it be to get the loop over functionality
> working on Collections?
> Are you still advancing the interpreter engine to make it more usable
> or was it a kind of technology demonstration?
>
> Patric
>
>
> >Your RuntimeException problem is the only bug I've had reported on the
docs
> >which isn't already corrected on the versions on the website.   If you
have
> >any more, please let me know!
>
> >I will regenerate that document next time I am on a fast connection (the
> >formatting for the PDF is done on a mainframe, so needs upload/download).
>
> >The source for the documentation is GML, with a number of purpose-built
> >tags (e.g., HTML-like table definitions), so would be difficult for
anyone

> >else to process.
>
> >Mike
>
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