[netrexx-course] Re: Netrexx dead ?

[dIon Gillard/Multitask Consulting/AU]

My thoughts were to work as an adjunct to the Apache JServ group. It's open
source, supports Apache (1/2 the web), and is actively developed.

I'd much rather use simple NetRexx in those pages where you MUST have code
than Java.

dIon



> > I personally have lots of things I'd like to see happen (for example,
VNR
> > has been worked on since last release, but again, lacks feedback from
> > users, doclets for 1.2 to replace the API docs I've got on the web, JSP
for
> > NetRexx etc, etc)
JSP for NetRexx!!!! That's it... I hate this PHP, JScript, ASP-thingies,
but
JSP seemed very interesting, though it is pure Java, it allows for reusable
components (an a clear syntax in contrast to PHP...). But thinking in
NetRexx for using it as NRSP, NetRexx Server Pages, would be wonderful.
Very
wonderful. Any ideas? Or anyone interested in this thing too? I have a lot
of experience in NR, so I probably could contribute some nice codelets or
concepts; though I always lack of time (My specialities are RMI, FileIO and
GUI's in Swing).
So what? Anyone? Anywhere ??

cu

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[Patric Bechtel-5]

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> My thoughts were to work as an adjunct to the Apache JServ group. It's
open
> source, supports Apache (1/2 the web), and is actively developed.
>
> I'd much rather use simple NetRexx in those pages where you MUST have code
> than Java.
yep!

>
> dIon
>

But, undoubtly, NRSP should be developed as servlet. Running this way, it
supports ALL servers (99% the web) which have a servlet-interface (which
includes JServ with apache, though). It's a common standard and the
interface is rather easy to implement (I wrote half a dozen servlets by
myself already, a local search engine is IMHO the best one...). So the other
question is, how would we extract that NetRexx-Code out of the pages and
compile it in a fast and cacheable manner? I think we should have an eye on
the sources of GNU jsp before (implements the jdsk too...) to get an idea...

cu

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[Tom Stevic]

In the hops of not sounding to dumb, what is JSP?




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[Patric Bechtel-5]

On Thu, 08 Apr 99 20:26:17 -0400, Tom Stevic wrote:

>In the hops of not sounding to dumb, what is JSP?

It's some sort of server-side includes. Imagine, having a html-page with some content which is
constantly changing, let's say on a database-server which has subscriptions of customers. To
show the number of these on the web-page, you have several possibilities:
- change them per hand day per day (ok, no real possobility, but I've seen this too...)
- make some cgi-scripts doing this. But you have thousands of (e.g. Rexx-Scripts) say-commands
in there which do not show the source of the html-file very clearly. And isn't very speedy,
too. Imagine creating a new shell-environment for each hit for this page... Not very good.
- take advantage of some special API's of Apache or other web-servers. Fast, but imagine
changing the webserver for some reason...
- using servlets. Fine, fast, but also not that clearly html-code.
- using php. Some sort of advanced cgi which is fast, html-code is rather clean, just some
code-insets in <? ?>-Tags; but code code itself is awful. And not available on some platforms.
- using jsp. Also some special tags, running on nearly all servers, clean html-code, clean
programming code, but some lack for lazy programmers just as all NetRexx-fans. Very good,
though.
- using nrsp (NetRexx Server Pages): perfect. Lazy coding, clearly readable, clear html-code,
fast, extensible, modular and so on.... I would like something like this VERY much (not just
me alone, I hope ;-))

enough now?

8-)

Patric

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Patric